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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: (February 17, 2016 at 3:35 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: I was talking about it. You replied to my posts. It's not a strawman when you don't read what you're responding to.
I replied to one of your posts and then a debate ensued from there. I'm not supposed to read everything you ever posted in your entire life prior to having a discussion with you. You remain on topic on what we're debating. If I'm not bringing up the teachers, you don't just start talking about them out of the blue. What the fuck?
You just have to read what you're responding to. Ain't hard.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm
What exactly is meant by arming the teachers? I think anyone who wants a gun should get one, provided they are shown to be mentally healthy and that they receive constant training and evaluation for it. But I don't think people who don't work in the security sphere or as policemen or what have you should be forced to carry fire weapons.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2016 at 3:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Right, so, now that we know what we're all talking about, is there any disagreement -on that-? People wanting guns and getting them has nothing to do with arming the teachers, lol. Teachers can already -own- guns. No one needs to propose this for it to become a reality. What's been proposed is getting teachers to bring heat -to a school-, as some sort of misguided security measure.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:46 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: (February 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I replied to one of your posts and then a debate ensued from there. I'm not supposed to read everything you ever posted in your entire life prior to having a discussion with you. You remain on topic on what we're debating. If I'm not bringing up the teachers, you don't just start talking about them out of the blue. What the fuck?
You just have to read what you're responding to. Ain't hard.
You ignored what I said and started talking about teachers. You're claiming it wasn't a strawman, but I'm sorry buddy, it was. You're just not willing to admit it, that's all.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:52 pm
Is it really that more Americans want guns?
Or is it just that the Americans who already have guns want more of them?
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 3:52 pm
Mostly the latter, far as can be told.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 5:30 pm
Here's another genius with a gun. This will not end well.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/shotgun-...ng-infant/
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 6:07 pm
On the 'arming teachers' thingy.
1. This shouldn't be done.
2. If it is done, it can't be done without the fact becoming general knowledge.
3. Once it becomes generally known that teachers are armed, dangerous lunatics who want to shoot school children will simply shoot the teacher first, THEN the kids.
This idea is a tornado of stupid.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 6:09 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Right, so, now that we know what we're all talking about, is there any disagreement -on that-? People wanting guns and getting them has nothing to do with arming the teachers, lol. Teachers can already -own- guns. No one needs to propose this for it to become a reality. What's been proposed is getting teachers to bring heat -to a school-, as some sort of misguided security measure.
I agree with you on that, then.
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RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 17, 2016 at 6:34 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: What exactly is meant by arming the teachers? I think anyone who wants a gun should get one, provided they are shown to be mentally healthy and that they receive constant training and evaluation for it. But I don't think people who don't work in the security sphere or as policemen or what have you should be forced to carry fire weapons.
Ohio has a program going to get teachers armed in the classroom.
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