(March 3, 2016 at 5:39 am)ignoramus Wrote: AJW333, before we can agree or disagree on whether we are  "spiritual in denial", you'll need to define the word spiritual for us.

Do you believe in astrology?

I don't follow astrology. That doesn't mean there is nothing spiritual about it, I believe there is. It's just not for me.

Definition of spiritual. It's a bit tricky because it is multifaceted. Let's just say that spiritual people are aware of energetic forces that exist outside the standard 4 dimensional space-time existence we are part of.

You keep using that word "spiritual". We have no idea what you are talking about?

(March 3, 2016 at 6:25 am)ignoramus Wrote: You keep using that word "spiritual". We have no idea what you are talking about?

Check my edit.

That's yet another definition of spirituality which makes no sense.

How are you aware of them, and how do you know it's outside our 4 dimensions?

(Please try to not use the argument from ignorance again.)

AJW333... this is where theists lose a little credibility.
You are special pleading with us to believe you. Can you offer a little more than that to put our mind at ease?

The circular fallacy is our favourite though.
"The bible is the ennerant word of god because it says so right there in the bible?

cheers for now.

(March 3, 2016 at 6:12 am)AJW333 Wrote: Definition of spiritual. It's a bit tricky because it is multifaceted. Let's just say that spiritual people are aware of energetic forces that exist outside the standard 4 dimensional space-time existence we are part of.

Do go on. Tell me more about the forces from outside 4 dimensional space-time...

Yeah. The problem is we have actual scientists here, not just nob faces like me. So talking about "dimensions" and stuff is going to get tricky unless you really know what you're saying.

(March 3, 2016 at 8:04 am)Alex K Wrote:

(March 3, 2016 at 6:12 am)AJW333 Wrote: Definition of spiritual. It's a bit tricky because it is multifaceted. Let's just say that spiritual people are aware of energetic forces that exist outside the standard 4 dimensional space-time existence we are part of.

Do go on. Tell me more about the forces from outside 4 dimensional space-time...

How about the specific knowledge of future events? I've seen it happen.

Please start a new thread and then give very specific examples with very specific details. These examples should be documented by someone other than you.

Thanks.