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Humans evolved from monkeys
#21
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
(March 8, 2016 at 8:47 pm)Old Baby Wrote:
(March 8, 2016 at 8:43 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Then invite him to go fuck himself.  You don't owe an idiot anything.

Problem solved.

(You might try asking him for some such "journal" which says we did evolve from monkeys.)

Just trying to learn how I can back up my arguments.  Learning opportunity for me.

I suppose it's arguable that we all evolved from an extremely simple, and not yet identified proto-virus which existed ~4 bya.
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#22
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
(March 8, 2016 at 11:30 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:
(March 8, 2016 at 8:47 pm)Old Baby Wrote: Just trying to learn how I can back up my arguments.  Learning opportunity for me.

I suppose it's arguable that we all evolved from an extremely simple, if not yet identified proto-virus which existed ~4 bya.

If we evolved from a proto-virus why is there still a Trump?

check mate, atheists.

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#23
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
(March 8, 2016 at 11:31 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(March 8, 2016 at 11:30 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: I suppose it's arguable that we all evolved from an extremely simple, if not yet identified proto-virus which existed ~4 bya.

If we evolved from a proto-virus why is there still a Trump?

check mate, atheists.

In the beginning, Trump created Manhattan and the sewers.
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#24
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
(March 8, 2016 at 11:31 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(March 8, 2016 at 11:30 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: I suppose it's arguable that we all evolved from an extremely simple, if not yet identified proto-virus which existed ~4 bya.

If we evolved from a proto-virus why is there still a Trump?

check mate, atheists.

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#25
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
(March 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Old Baby Wrote:
(March 8, 2016 at 8:35 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I think defining your terms might be helpful.

The term "monkey" is not synonymous with the word "ape."

Chimpanzees, Gorillas, Gibbons, and Bonobos are not monkeys. They are apes. So are humans.

All monkeys and apes are primates, however. Somewhere along the line, we all share a primate ancestor.

So your twitter friend is indeed incorrect. We evolved from an early primate ancestor, not a monkey. The monkeys are like cousins to our close Hominoidae Family.

But his point specifically is that we did evolve from monkeys.  The word "monkey" is very important because he's a theist schooling atheists who he says don't actually know anything about evolution.  I've found many sites that explain that humans did not evolve from monkeys, but he won't accept any source unless it's a science journal or equivalent.

Bring him here, if he has the 'nads. He'll get edumacated faster then he can say, Praise the Lord and pass the collection plate!"

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#26
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
Tell him that we evolved from fish.

The whole idea of evolving from monkeys is false in itself because it suggests that this was the starting point as well as making people think of modern day monkeys rather than a common primate ancestor. So telling him that humans, monkeys, apes and everything else also evolved from fish will put the whole process into a larger prospective.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13278255

Basically don't let him dictate the argument. He's arguing about a definition, i.e. of monkey. What's important is an understanding about how evolution works.
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#27
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
(March 8, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Old Baby Wrote: His source is a "college source" thus undefeatable apparently.

That would be an argument by appeal to (anonymous) authority.  The truth of the statement is thus irrelevant as the form of the argument is invalid.
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#28
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
I am Micky Dolenz's love child. Does that help?
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#29
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
What's the point that this guy is trying to make? Sounds like he is deliberately teaching students about evolution in a way that makes it sounds less plausible by relying on equivocation. Which is intellectually dishonest.
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#30
RE: Humans evolved from monkeys
(March 9, 2016 at 10:11 am)Mathilda Wrote: What's the point that this guy is trying to make? Sounds like he is deliberately teaching students about evolution in a way that makes it sounds less plausible by relying on equivocation. Which is intellectually dishonest.

No, he's a Christian who believes in evolution.  He just likes trying to school atheists.
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