(March 9, 2016 at 4:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Good god, I hope not.  I had my concerns about that back when the idea was first floated seriously.  Now that integration has become a reality the service is making changes.  The marines, for example, postponed their deadline for integration while they changed their physical fitness standards to be the same for men and women.  This does mean that fewer women will pass (plenty of men fail too), they'd been traditionally held to a much, much lower standard.  Hopefully the other branches do the same..otherwise they're setting women (and our armed forces) up to fail both in their careers and on the battlefield.

(March 9, 2016 at 3:22 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Why do I get the impression this is going to lead to "if women can't match men in the sports arena, why should they be allowed into combat"?

(March 9, 2016 at 2:04 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:

(March 9, 2016 at 1:19 pm)pool the great Wrote: You know what's childish? Pin pointing on that four eyes remark and completely ignoring leukocytes penis, which was demonstrably funny and degrading to you, you Sinai tow death pubic hair.

Are you seriously puffing your chest out over a small-dick joke that involved the word "penis?" Did you think it was clever because leukocytes are small? And now you're calling somebody a pubic hair? You can't just say "dipshit," "asshole," or "fuckstick" like an adult? Do you think you're being creative, pool?


You know what? All the flaming is beside the point, and the point is that you obviously know nothing about women, or how they feel about sports.


Ever heard of Title 9? It's a bill that singlehandedly destroyed men's sports in college because it requires that men and women have roughly equal numbers of athletes, the logic being that women like sports just as much as men, so if they have an equal opportunity they'd have the same numbers. No matter how many programs most schools created or what they did to get girls to join, most schools COULD NOT get enough women to join their programs to balance out their numbers, so their only option under the new law was to cut men's programming instead. Track teams, wrestling teams...basically everything but football and basketball was cut in many places.


What this seems to suggest is that not only are men generally more athletic, but they also have a generally greater predilection for competing in sports. Otherwise, creating the additional programs for women would have solved the problem. The women in that scenario weren't choosing not to play because they were being discriminated against or because they wanted to play with the boys, but because they just didn't really give a shit about sports. This is why the men's programs had to be cut.


But hey, your personal experience with Bertha the Soviet Hog Strangler beats out any actual, real-world evidence we could offer you, right? Right?

(March 9, 2016 at 7:27 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:

(March 9, 2016 at 3:22 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Why do I get the impression this is going to lead to "if women can't match men in the sports arena, why should they be allowed into combat"?

Personally, I don't think much of anyone should be allowed into combat, but that's a whole other issue.

(March 9, 2016 at 10:52 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: I'm still trying to decide if you're seriously this obtuse or if you're just a shitty little troll.


What I said is that women, when given equal opportunity to compete, don't compete in sports as much as men do, which suggests that women who don't play sports do so because they don't give a shit about sports and NOT because  there wasn't an equal opportunity to play. Now, repeat that back to me.


There is no such thing as a creative "small dick" joke, pool.


How is it discrimination to not want  people shooting at each other in wars? Are you serious right now?

(March 9, 2016 at 11:09 pm)pool the great Wrote: Hi pinky 
So given the same opportunity less women took participation therefore women have no interest? 
Son, it has nothing to do with you attaching a stigma that sports are for men?

Wow, troll. Way to fuck it up again. I say a thing, I ask you to repeat it back, and when it comes back, it's some bullshit I didn't say. Of course.


I didn't say no women are interested in sports. I said less women play sports, and the ones who don't play sports make that choice because they're not interested in sports, and not because they don't have access to them. The ones who do play sports are clearly interested in sports.


I really don't know how I can put that any simpler. Everyone else gets it, right? Please tell me pool is the only paramecium-brain in this thread who doesn't understand what I'm saying.