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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 18, 2016 at 9:54 pm
(March 18, 2016 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 4:23 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote: You are serious? You are going to make me look this up despite the fact that we both know it's there plain black and white?
Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Is that clear enough for you?
THEY WERE PUNISHED FOR COMMITTING EVIL DESPITE NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL BECAUSE THEY HADN'T YET EATEN FROM THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. FOR FUCK SAKE YOU ARE THICK.
I'm only going to warn you this last time either cut the foul language or I'll stop communicating with you, of course that would make you happy, I'm sure you're getting tired of being put in your place.
Where does the Bible say that Adam committed evil, he sinned against God through disobedience and was punished for that disobedience. I showed you in an earlier post on this thread that Adam and Eve knew it was wrong to disobey God and that there were consequences to that disobedience. Once again you show your ignorance of scripture.
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So you are saying that Adam sinned against God, but then you are asking me where it says Adam committed evil. OK. So are you again saying something stupid? This time are you saying that evil is not the same thing as sin? Am I going to have to look THAT up too?
Also I missed the part where you admitted you were wrong.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 18, 2016 at 10:27 pm
(March 18, 2016 at 6:36 pm)FebruaryOfReason Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm only going to warn you this last time either cut the foul language or I'll stop communicating with you, of course that would make you happy, I'm sure you're getting tired of being put in your place.
He's not tired of being put in his place.
You haven't "put him in his place" at all.
He's tired of the way you ignore the massive holes in your own argument. We all are.
Nihilist Virus - I tried to give you more rep for your post but for some reason I can only add to your rep once. Kudos anyway.
You know nothing about the Bible either, so how could you possibly judge what I have to say, I've brought a stop to him at every turn in different threads.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 18, 2016 at 10:42 pm
(March 18, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote:
So you are saying that Adam sinned against God, but then you are asking me where it says Adam committed evil. OK. So are you again saying something stupid? This time are you saying that evil is not the same thing as sin? Am I going to have to look THAT up too?
I've said nothing stupid, I'm trying to show you your mistakes. Yes whee does the Bible say Adam committed evil in the Garden. You're the one who said he did you're the one who needs to show what the Bible says he did in the Garden. I'm telling you the Bible says he disobeyed God. You're looking to have your cake and eat it and it ain't happening.
NV Wrote:Also I missed the part where you admitted you were wrong.
I'm not wrong, prove where the Bible says Adam committed evil in the Garden.
GC
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 18, 2016 at 10:58 pm
(March 18, 2016 at 10:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: So you are saying that Adam sinned against God, but then you are asking me where it says Adam committed evil. OK. So are you again saying something stupid? This time are you saying that evil is not the same thing as sin? Am I going to have to look THAT up too?
I've said nothing stupid, I'm trying to show you your mistakes. Yes whee does the Bible say Adam committed evil in the Garden. You're the one who said he did you're the one who needs to show what the Bible says he did in the Garden. I'm telling you the Bible says he disobeyed God. You're looking to have your cake and eat it and it ain't happening.
NV Wrote:Also I missed the part where you admitted you were wrong.
I'm not wrong, prove where the Bible says Adam committed evil in the Garden.
GC
And eating a piece of fruit is evil... yeah knowledge is evil no wonder why theists for the most part tend to hate science and history.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 19, 2016 at 12:17 am
(March 18, 2016 at 6:36 pm)FebruaryOfReason Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm only going to warn you this last time either cut the foul language or I'll stop communicating with you, of course that would make you happy, I'm sure you're getting tired of being put in your place.
He's not tired of being put in his place.
You haven't "put him in his place" at all.
He's tired of the way you ignore the massive holes in your own argument. We all are.
Nihilist Virus - I tried to give you more rep for your post but for some reason I can only add to your rep once. Kudos anyway.
No worries, it's just a number. Thanks though, I do appreciate the thought. 
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 19, 2016 at 1:53 am
(March 18, 2016 at 10:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: So you are saying that Adam sinned against God, but then you are asking me where it says Adam committed evil. OK. So are you again saying something stupid? This time are you saying that evil is not the same thing as sin? Am I going to have to look THAT up too?
I've said nothing stupid, I'm trying to show you your mistakes. Yes whee does the Bible say Adam committed evil in the Garden. You're the one who said he did you're the one who needs to show what the Bible says he did in the Garden. I'm telling you the Bible says he disobeyed God. You're looking to have your cake and eat it and it ain't happening.
NV Wrote:Also I missed the part where you admitted you were wrong.
I'm not wrong, prove where the Bible says Adam committed evil in the Garden.
GC
Jeremiah 18:10 says,
"If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them."
So disobedience to God is evil.
Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit, therefore they committed evil, but they were unaware of good and evil before having eaten of the fruit (as I showed above in huge letters). Therefore they were punished for actions which they did not comprehend.
So as I said originally,
Adam and Eve did not know the difference between good and evil
They were then punished for committing evil
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 19, 2016 at 4:06 am
(March 18, 2016 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 4:23 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote: You are serious? You are going to make me look this up despite the fact that we both know it's there plain black and white?
Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Is that clear enough for you?
THEY WERE PUNISHED FOR COMMITTING EVIL DESPITE NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL BECAUSE THEY HADN'T YET EATEN FROM THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. FOR FUCK SAKE YOU ARE THICK.
I'm only going to warn you this last time either cut the foul language or I'll stop communicating with you, of course that would make you happy, I'm sure you're getting tired of being put in your place.
Where does the Bible say that Adam committed evil, he sinned against God through disobedience and was punished for that disobedience. I showed you in an earlier post on this thread that Adam and Eve knew it was wrong to disobey God and that there were consequences to that disobedience. Once again you show your ignorance of scripture.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 19, 2016 at 4:23 am
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(March 16, 2016 at 3:48 am)1994Californication Wrote: God creates everything, including Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil...the tree of knowledge (does that mean god wanted us to be stupid? Or just to mindlessly obey - I mean, is the "wrong" done here because they disobeyed, or because they gained the knowledge of good and evil) and then banished them from the garden, before they could eat from the tree of life (that would give them eternal life) - after playing a game of hide and seek.And its never explained why that tree was there in the first place or what was the deal with the talking snake(most Christians would say it was Satan but it was never explicitly stated as such).
The "Orthodox" Christian interpretation of story makes no sense, I agree. However if you interpret the story different as it originally meant to the first readers of it, then it makes sense. The Garden of Eden story has the same meaning roughly as the Prometheus stealing Fire from the Gods did in Greek mythology.
If you use that interpretation, then the gods (including Yahweh) were afraid of Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit that would make them as powerful and immortal as they (the gods) were.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 19, 2016 at 9:22 am
And none of this has any effect on my taxes, so why does it matter?
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 19, 2016 at 9:56 am
(March 19, 2016 at 9:22 am)I coulda had a V8 Wrote: And none of this has any effect on my taxes, so why does it matter?
Actually it does as religions do not pay taxes which requires us to pay more to compensate.
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