(March 27, 2016 at 3:04 am)Cato Wrote:

(March 27, 2016 at 2:02 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Can we all agree that Hitler was a dummy?  He thought he was fighting a 19th Century war. He should have played with toy soldiers.  Maybe he would have won.

Preposterous. Hitler was no dummy, despite our collective disagreement with his motives and actions. 19th century? Hitler changed what at the time was considered modern warfare and the rest of the world had to adjust. Your conclusions aren't even wrong; they're ill informed and completely fictional.

What? To what degree, he made a try sure, but he committed suicide in a bunker. It still remains he bit off more than he could chew. The only advancements I would really would attribute to his effort was that he had jets but by the time he got them into production it was late in the war and it would have done no good. He never came close to the H bomb. Outside that his advancement through Europe were more because of those nations being weaker.

Now strategy bits and pieces maybe, but again, what matters in war is who is on top when the dust settles. He lost so he couldn't have been that smart. I really think is ego got the best of him and it lead him until it was too late, fortunately for the rest of the world.

(March 27, 2016 at 4:00 pm)abaris Wrote: The usual antisemitic idiot, I see. Fundamentally ignorant, of course. Always comes with the territory.

Yep, they did steal Palestine.  Damn land thieves. Now they're trying to steal Syria.

(March 27, 2016 at 6:31 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Yep, they did steal Palestine.  Damn land thieves. Now they're trying to steal Syria.

Maybe look at the history of Palestine? Maybe look for all the peoples living there before 1948? Maybe look at the actual treaties? Maybe look at a history book? Maybe actually read it?

Too much to ask?

(March 27, 2016 at 6:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 27, 2016 at 3:04 am)Cato Wrote: Preposterous. Hitler was no dummy, despite our collective disagreement with his motives and actions. 19th century? Hitler changed what at the time was considered modern warfare and the rest of the world had to adjust. Your conclusions aren't even wrong; they're ill informed and completely fictional.

What? To what degree, he made a try sure, but he committed suicide in a bunker. It still remains he bit off more than he could chew. The only advancements I would really would attribute to his effort was that he had jets but by the time he got them into production it was late in the war and it would have done no good. He never came close to the H bomb. Outside that his advancement through Europe were more because of those nations being weaker.

Now strategy bits and pieces maybe, but again, what matters in war is who is on top when the dust settles. He lost so he couldn't have been that smart. I really think is ego got the best of him and it lead him until it was too late, fortunately for the rest of the world.

Napoléon died imprisoned on a small island. Caesar was stabbed by most of the Roman senate, Robert E. surrendered to a drunk, and on and on. Smart people do bite off more than they can chew.

(March 27, 2016 at 8:08 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

(March 27, 2016 at 6:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: What? To what degree, he made a try sure, but he committed suicide in a bunker. It still remains he bit off more than he could chew. The only advancements I would really would attribute to his effort was that he had jets but by the time he got them into production it was late in the war and it would have done no good. He never came close to the H bomb. Outside that his advancement through Europe were more because of those nations being weaker.

Now strategy bits and pieces maybe, but again, what matters in war is who is on top when the dust settles. He lost so he couldn't have been that smart. I really think is ego got the best of him and it lead him until it was too late, fortunately for the rest of the world.

Napoléon died imprisoned on a small island. Caesar was stabbed by most of the Roman senate, Robert E. surrendered to a drunk, and on and on.  Smart people do bite off more than they can chew.

          If that's the case the U.S has not chewed it's food since ww2 and I'm sure we have major dental problems from it.

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For anyone interested in watching Sanders speak in my home town. He was here yesterday. Haven't listend to it yet, but plan to tomorrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-lPBU_KhTY

Trump will be in Wisconsin to speak on Tuesday. I hope I can find video of that also.

(March 27, 2016 at 8:08 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

(March 27, 2016 at 6:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: What? To what degree, he made a try sure, but he committed suicide in a bunker. It still remains he bit off more than he could chew. The only advancements I would really would attribute to his effort was that he had jets but by the time he got them into production it was late in the war and it would have done no good. He never came close to the H bomb. Outside that his advancement through Europe were more because of those nations being weaker.

Now strategy bits and pieces maybe, but again, what matters in war is who is on top when the dust settles. He lost so he couldn't have been that smart. I really think is ego got the best of him and it lead him until it was too late, fortunately for the rest of the world.

Napoléon died imprisoned on a small island. Caesar was stabbed by most of the Roman senate, Robert E. surrendered to a drunk, and on and on.  Smart people do bite off more than they can chew.

Hillary says that she will attack and destroy Iran when she becomes President.  She wants to kill off a lot of our troops to protect the foreign country of Israel.  The dummy thinks that she's their messiah.  She akes the dummy Hitler look like a super genius.

(March 26, 2016 at 11:13 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(March 25, 2016 at 12:28 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: The reeducation camps through labor, basically were meant to break peoples will so they learned who was in charge, thus reeducating them to the way they were desired to obey.

You missed the point.  The NKVD, OGPU, and KGB didn't give a shit about "re-education". The camps weren't meant to teach anything. Those camps were the state's way of seizing a portion of the labor pool and directing it where it wanted.

And disappearing the inconvenient people who wouldn't shut up about what was wrong with the "socialist utopia" of the USSR.

(March 26, 2016 at 11:30 pm)Sterben Wrote:

(March 26, 2016 at 11:12 pm)IATIA Wrote: Does anyone think that killing Hitler and his top generals would have had a major effect on the outcome of the war?

         Not as much as impact as you think, there was a lot of smart German commanders. If Hitler would of died in the early days of war it would made a impact and Germany could of possibly won the war. The person who would of took over would of probably worked with Japan and stalled out the attack on America. Germany would of also probably not started the final solution as soon as they did and it would of been pushed back. Germany still had England and Russia to deal with and a smart commander does not expose himself on two fronts. If the Germans did not start the camps in the 1941 they would of had far more resources to work with and would of been able to do more damage. I have a question for you then IATIA, if Pearl Harbor had been pushed back, would the U.S of entered the war anyways as soon as England was defeated?

There was nobody in a position to actually rescue the German position on 1st September 1939. By that stage the German economy was too fucked up to actually sustain the army to eventual victory, the Germans only managed to get so far due to a series of million to one chances going their way (and even given that, in the east all that lead to was a stalemate between Dec 1941 and 1943 which massively drained materiel and men from Germany, making them weaker long term) and the US and UK willing to wait until 1944 before hitting Germany through France (well willing to wait isn't the right word, it was more a case of Churchill's listening to Monty's* obsession with going through Italy, and FDR unwilling to push to hard to scotch that route). The plain unvarnished fact is that Germany effectively lost the second world war on 30-01-1933.

*Bernard Law Montgomery was the Lord Ronnie Rust of British generalling, a man whose reputation and arrogance was far in excess of his actual ability.