(March 28, 2016 at 4:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:but the most important teachers any child has are mom and dad.

And how many kids have a "mom AND dad" these days? 

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...al-family/

Quote:Fewer than half of U.S. kids today live in a ‘traditional’ family

And even if they do you run into this phenomenon. 

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/famee.pdf

Quote:The share of married -couple families with children where both parents worked was 60.2 percent.

So if teachers are waiting for parents to pick up the slack they have a long wait because the 1960s are not coming back.

Both of my parents worked, but they were also involved. It does not take two parents to be involved, one will do. I made it through grad school in the top 5 percent.

It's not a matter of picking up the slack but a matter of parental mind set. If the parents don't give a shit then neither will the kids. My parents didn't do my homework but they made sure it was done. My parents didn't teach me music but they made sure I practiced. Sometimes I was encouraged through nurturing, sometimes through threat, both had a positive outcome. I was never encouraged by "I don't care, it's the teachers job not mine".

This idiot blew his neighbors away.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/c...42062.html

Quote: And how, exactly, are teachers to pick up that shortfall?

That's the point.  They can't.  But they may as well blame the easter bunny as the lack of parental involvement because neither is a workable solution.  Sorry if I wasn't clear about that. 

I'm not sure that the educational model we are using is still relevant.  One teacher to 15-18 kids might be workable.  One to 35-40 kids is most assuredly not.  Maybe the school day needs to be longer so that kids do not have homework which is pre-planned to be supervised by non-existent parents/parents who are too exhausted themselves/parents who are the victims of the same inferior education their kids are getting?  I wish I had the answer.

(March 28, 2016 at 6:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote: And how, exactly, are teachers to pick up that shortfall?

That's the point.  They can't.  But they may as well blame the easter bunny as the lack of parental involvement because neither is a workable solution.  Sorry if I wasn't clear about that. 

I'm not sure that the educational model we are using is still relevant.  One teacher to 15-18 kids might be workable.  One to 35-40 kids is most assuredly not.  Maybe the school day needs to be longer so that kids do not have homework which is pre-planned to be supervised by non-existent parents/parents who are too exhausted themselves/parents who are the victims of the same inferior education their kids are getting?  I wish I had the answer.

No argument with any of that, except that involved parenting shows more tangible rewards than the Easter Bunny.

Theoretically, yes.  Practically.... things are different on that side too.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/175286/hour-w...hours.aspx

Quote:The "40-Hour" Workweek Is Actually Longer -- by Seven Hours

It's like when the republicunts shriek "we want our country back."  What they want is the 1950's back and its gone and isn't coming back.  At some point educators will have to face reality, too.

(March 28, 2016 at 6:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote: This idiot blew his neighbors away.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/c...42062.html

What does this have to do with this thread?

We're saying that it's not his fault!
He is a the victim!

It can't be his fault surely? There must be someone or some other govt department to blame.

I blame those pesky illegal Mexicans and those evil Muslim terrorists in your country.
Once that wall goes up, America will be great again!


No, not really.

(March 28, 2016 at 8:29 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(March 28, 2016 at 6:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote: This idiot blew his neighbors away.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/c...42062.html

What does this have to do with this thread?

North carolina...south carolina.  Same shit.

(March 28, 2016 at 8:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(March 28, 2016 at 8:29 pm)KUSA Wrote: What does this have to do with this thread?

North carolina...south carolina.  Same shit.

You have lost me on this. My thread was about an idiot that blew his leg off with explosives. Brian just posted a random gun murder. I don't mind if he posts this up but how does it pertain to this thread topic?

(March 28, 2016 at 8:52 pm)ignoramus Wrote: We're saying that it's not his fault!
He is a the victim!

It can't be his fault surely? There must be someone or some other govt department to blame.

I blame those pesky illegal Mexicans and those evil Muslim terrorists in your country.
Once that wall goes up, America will be great again!


No, not really.

That's right! It's them goddamned Mexicans and Muslims. If it weren't for them that fucker would still have his leg.