(May 14, 2016 at 4:33 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: If voting for who I think is the best candidate is flushing my vote down the toilet, then voting for a worse candidate would also be flushing it down the toilet. If they actually win, then it's even worse. Then it's like pulling your vote, still-steaming, back out of the toilet, lighting it on fire, and hurling it at others.

No, it's voting for the lesser evil. Easier for me, since I know my vote to be represented in parliament anyway. But if I try to walk in American shoes, I'd pinch my nose and vote for Hillary since I wouldn't want Dump to set up shop. Not because I like her, but because of preventing being fucked up the ass with a sordid lead pipe.

(May 14, 2016 at 4:14 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:

(May 14, 2016 at 4:09 pm)abaris Wrote: Well, that would be because we don't share the same prejudices and simplicity.

Got it, you have no argument. You are just going along with the rest of the crazy people. Plus you are not from the US, so you really don't have any real world experiences, which is why I understand your lack of information. Good luck with the Muslim invasion this year. The world is watching.

Wait, you think only the US is the real world?

Child, you desperately need to broaden your horizons, which right now seem to mirror the circumference of a goldfish bowl.

By the by, Abaris lives in a country beset by a refugee crisis that makes our illegal-immigration problem look like child's play. I think he's certainly got a better grip on that issue than you do, myself.

(May 14, 2016 at 7:09 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: By the by, Abaris lives in a country beset by a refugee crisis that makes our illegal-immigration problem look like child's play. I think he's certainly got a better grip on that issue than you do, myself.

And I have nothing but contempt for everyone trying to change a political dime on their shoulders. We can afford it, we can shoulder it, and the only thing disgusting me is that other EU countries, namely the ones already fallen to rightwingery, don't do their part. If they want to cultivate their petty nationalisms, fine, cut their EU subsidies. That's really one thing I don't want my tax money to be spent on.

(May 14, 2016 at 7:34 pm)abaris Wrote:

(May 14, 2016 at 7:09 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: By the by, Abaris lives in a country beset by a refugee crisis that makes our illegal-immigration problem look like child's play. I think he's certainly got a better grip on that issue than you do, myself.

And I have nothing but contempt for everyone trying to change a political dime on their shoulders. We can afford it, we can shoulder it, and the only thing disgusting me is that other EU countries, namely the ones already fallen to rightwingery, don't do their part. If they want to cultivate their petty nationalisms, fine, cut their EU subsidies. That's really one thing I don't want my tax money to be spent on.

What do you think of Saudi Arabia not accepting refugees although they have the ability to with tents with AC ready to go? They don't want to because of the threat they create. Europe is like a naive child with guilt issues and stockholm syndrome. Sure I get it, you don't mind altering your culture to adopt parts of sharia law in certain communities to appease, and pay for refugees, which is part of the plan to transform your continent. The only perceivable benefits are charity I guess to make yourselves feel better and that is an honorable thing actually. I just hope they assimilate, but it might be a while, or maybe the indigenous Europeans may be forced to assimilate to the culture being brought in. I've read quite a few stories already of having to alter behavior to appease refugees, or people taking advantage of your willingness to let whoever makes the trek. It's a bad defense, but I don't think you are worried about defending anything because morals are relative.

They have been trying to break down nationalism for a long time in Europe with the creation of the EU, and the Kalergi plan, along with Bilderberg meetings.

Can't remember the number planned for this year for the refugees for the US, but I think the goal was about 100,000. They have already placed about 75,000 syrian refugees across the US in 2015.

Now they are threatening EU nations with fines for not accepting refugees, or illegal immigrants whatever they claim to be.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/european-com...1462357287

We will see how long the people put up with it, and how long the social services can maintain such a large influx. Guessing by the end of 2016 it's going to be a mess, and national debts will be increased. No one seems to care about the reasons why gulf nations refuse to accept these people.

(May 14, 2016 at 7:09 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(May 14, 2016 at 4:14 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Got it, you have no argument. You are just going along with the rest of the crazy people. Plus you are not from the US, so you really don't have any real world experiences, which is why I understand your lack of information. Good luck with the Muslim invasion this year. The world is watching.

Wait, you think only the US is the real world?

Child, you desperately need to broaden your horizons, which right now seem to mirror the circumference of a goldfish bowl.

By the by, Abaris lives in a country beset by a refugee crisis that makes our illegal-immigration problem look like child's play. I think he's certainly got a better grip on that issue than you do, myself.

I think you need to stop being a reactionary, and start looking into agenda of higher level people. Once you climb the ladder and get a better perspective, you will start to understand the situation at hand. This is no accident and actually part of a plan to have cultures clash, break down nationalism, break down borders, implement globalist ideology, create crisis, offer solutions which take more control away from the people, centralize power, and take over. Don't fall for the trap. This has been planned for years, and just another stage in the game. 

I don't think he realizes what's at stake, since he's down with the masses on ground level, instead of having a birds eye view of the past, present, and future. He's reacting to current events without realizing these events are planned for the purpose of altering the future of his nation, and the world.

A couple of questions. (Addressed to anyone interested in answering them.)

How bad could Trump really be and how much power does the potus really have?

Isn't the choice between the two a no-brainer and do you really fear that the voting population could make that big of a mistake, assumming you gave a certain answer to my first question?

Is it really fair to compair Hillary to her husband?

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I think there's a better chance I'll became president than Sanders, at this point. That ship has sailed for some time now.

(May 14, 2016 at 8:44 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: ...

Can't remember the number planned for this year for the refugees for the US, but I think the goal was about 100,000. They have already placed about 75,000 syrian refugees across the US in 2015.

Now they are threatening EU nations with fines for not accepting refugees, or illegal immigrants whatever they claim to be.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/european-com...1462357287

We will see how long the people put up with it, and how long the social services can maintain such a large influx. Guessing by the end of 2016 it's going to be a mess, and national debts will be increased. No one seems to care about the reasons why gulf nations refuse to accept these people.

100,000 people in America is... 1 person for every 3,000 current residents. In my town of 45,000, we'd need to absorb... 15 people. Maybe 4 families. That doesn't qualify as a "large influx" in my book.

Also, the math around "Saudi Arabia taking refugees" is highly politicized. What seems clear is that there are 500,000 more Syrians in Saudi Arabia now than there were at the start of the Syrian civil war. How many would be there even if there was no war, how many are expected to go back once the war is over... these are generally unclear. They're not officially referred to as "refugees", and Saudi Arabia isn't a party to the international refugee agreement.

But to say "Saudi Arabia is keeping Syrians out because they're threatening" is... misinformed. There are about 2.5 million Syrian citizens living in Saudi Arabia in total.

(May 14, 2016 at 8:52 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:

(May 14, 2016 at 7:09 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Wait, you think only the US is the real world?

Child, you desperately need to broaden your horizons, which right now seem to mirror the circumference of a goldfish bowl.

By the by, Abaris lives in a country beset by a refugee crisis that makes our illegal-immigration problem look like child's play. I think he's certainly got a better grip on that issue than you do, myself.

I think you need to stop being a reactionary, and start looking into agenda of higher level people. Once you climb the ladder and get a better perspective, you will start to understand the situation at hand. This is no accident and actually part of a plan to have cultures clash, break down nationalism, break down borders, implement globalist ideology, create crisis, offer solutions which take more control away from the people, centralize power, and take over. Don't fall for the trap. This has been planned for years, and just another stage in the game. 

I don't think he realizes what's at stake, since he's down with the masses on ground level, instead of having a birds eye view of the past, present, and future. He's reacting to current events without realizing these events are planned for the purpose of altering the future of his nation, and the world.

The bastards running the universities are throwing tens of millions of dollars to educate illegal aliens while they crap in the faces of American citizen students.  http://universityofcalifornia.edu/press-...d-students

(May 14, 2016 at 8:44 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Now they are threatening EU nations with fines for not accepting refugees, or illegal immigrants whatever they claim to be.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/european-com...1462357287

You're such a complete idiot that you don't even understand the article you posted. The EU was considering imposing fines on it's members not helping out, while collecting subsidies, paid by other member's taxes. The EU parliament didn't agree anyway, so, no dice. No outside force involved. Just members not playing by the rules.

Pathetic little creature, really. Gobbling up every conspiracy on this planet, while being ignorant as shit and despicable on the side.

(May 14, 2016 at 9:09 pm)abaris Wrote:

(May 14, 2016 at 8:44 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Now they are threatening EU nations with fines for not accepting refugees, or illegal immigrants whatever they claim to be.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/european-com...1462357287

You're such a complete idiot that you don't even understand the article you posted. The EU was considering imposing fines on it's members not helping out, while collecting subsidies, paid by other member's taxes. The EU parliament didn't agree anyway, so, no dice. No outside force involved. Just members not playing by the rules.

Pathetic little creature, really. Gobbling up every conspiracy on this planet, while being ignorant as shit and despicable on the side.

hahaha. Good thing they stuck up for national sovereignty, which is something they don't take kindly to in the EU these days. Don't know which country you live in because you refuse to divulge that so far, but guessing being suicidal like you are culturally, that you are still in a state of dissociative disorder, trying to maintain some balance while knowing the back of your mind, you have been hoodwinked into allowing the barrier to be breached and it's just a matter of time.

Forget about the fact many immigrants demanding your services are not even Syrians, but your government isn't even worried about it. Everyone is welcome. They need to break your will, through the four steps to take over a nation: Demoralization, Destabilization, Insurgency, Normalization. You are in the insurgency state right now, and the agenda is almost complete. Get ready for it.