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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 2, 2016 at 12:52 am
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People in general are stupid, especially in relation to science.
"Oh, my son is autistic, it must be your fault"
Humanity has become very well known for placing the blame elsewhere.
Sorry, honey, but your son is autistic due to the combination of genes between you and your husband.
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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 2, 2016 at 1:24 am
(June 2, 2016 at 12:52 am)Maelstrom Wrote: People in general are stupid, especially in relation to science.
"Oh, my son is autistic, it must be your fault"
Humanity has become very well known for placing the blame elsewhere.
Sorry, honey, but your son is autistic due to the combination of genes between you and your husband.
Environmental factors can also be part of it.
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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 2, 2016 at 1:53 am
(May 31, 2016 at 10:15 pm)c172 Wrote: https://www.facebook.com/topic/Marco-Art...4753366004
Marco Arturo: 12-Year-Old Creates Video About the Correlation Between Vaccines and Autism
Marco, who lives in Mexico, posts science videos on his Facebook page, where he has thousands of followers. The video has been viewed over 3 million times and was shared by Ashton Kutcher.
Kutcher's a douchebag.
Straw man argument. As pointed out earlier no one has ever credibly claimed that all vaccines cause autism. The claim was limited to the MMR vaccine. Some isolated examples of vaccinations have actually killed, so it's completely understandable why some people would be afraid of them. If the kid wanted creditability he should have printed out the Wakefield paper, put that in the "evidence for" pile (even though the paper was retracted by Lancet), and then print out the 200+ papers criticising it and put it in the "evidence against" pile.
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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 4, 2016 at 3:17 am
I'm sorry but the whole anti-vaxxer crowed is just a bunch of fucking morons...
who are just sheep they don't bother putting in the research even when you
show them evidence they roll over and laugh in your face saying you are wrong.
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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 4, 2016 at 5:47 pm
(June 2, 2016 at 1:24 am)Bella Morte Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 12:52 am)Maelstrom Wrote: People in general are stupid, especially in relation to science.
"Oh, my son is autistic, it must be your fault"
Humanity has become very well known for placing the blame elsewhere.
Sorry, honey, but your son is autistic due to the combination of genes between you and your husband.
Environmental factors can also be part of it.
We don't know what it is, I think that's part of the problem with all the stupid fingerpointing at vaccines. And this is coming from someone who has an autistic nephew.
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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 4, 2016 at 6:03 pm
Common gene variants account for most genetic risk for autism
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-rel...isk-autism
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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 4, 2016 at 8:43 pm
As Ned Flanders says, "Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things".
Here is some information. It is a few pages long.
Since that initial finding, 14 studies including millions of children in several countries consistently show no significant difference in autism rates between children who got the MMR vaccine those who didn't.
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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 5, 2016 at 2:19 am
(June 4, 2016 at 5:47 pm)Mermaid Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 1:24 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Environmental factors can also be part of it.
We don't know what it is, I think that's part of the problem with all the stupid fingerpointing at vaccines. And this is coming from someone who has an autistic nephew.
And this is coming from someone with a lot of knowledge and experience when it comes to autistic people as well. We don't know exactly what causes autism or other autistic spectrum disorders.
I don't think vaccines do, nor was I trying to imply that. But apparently environmental factors during pregnancy can cause it. Hopefully we find out eventually.
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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 5, 2016 at 8:57 am
(June 5, 2016 at 2:19 am)Bella Morte Wrote: (June 4, 2016 at 5:47 pm)Mermaid Wrote: We don't know what it is, I think that's part of the problem with all the stupid fingerpointing at vaccines. And this is coming from someone who has an autistic nephew.
And this is coming from someone with a lot of knowledge and experience when it comes to autistic people as well. We don't know exactly what causes autism or other autistic spectrum disorders.
I don't think vaccines do, nor was I trying to imply that. But apparently environmental factors during pregnancy can cause it. Hopefully we find out eventually. Completely agree.
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RE: Vaccines and Autism
June 5, 2016 at 9:21 am
(June 5, 2016 at 2:19 am)Bella Morte Wrote: (June 4, 2016 at 5:47 pm)Mermaid Wrote: We don't know what it is, I think that's part of the problem with all the stupid fingerpointing at vaccines. And this is coming from someone who has an autistic nephew.
And this is coming from someone with a lot of knowledge and experience when it comes to autistic people as well. We don't know exactly what causes autism or other autistic spectrum disorders.
I don't think vaccines do, nor was I trying to imply that. But apparently environmental factors during pregnancy can cause it. Hopefully we find out eventually.
Not arguing but curious. Do you consider "environmental" external (factors introduced from outside the body), internal (factors introduced inside the body) or both?
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