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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:17 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 1:33 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 11:51 am)Lek Wrote: It is true, though, that God allows it to happen and doesn't stop it. emphasis mine.
Okay, so then why worship a deity like that? Can you not see that he's a narcissist POS that really doesn't give a shit about his sheeple since he allows that sort of thing to happen?
We've all suffered to attain something that's worth the suffering. We don't know how it all fits into eternity. Even God has suffered. Because suffering is unpleasant doesn't mean that it is bad. You're suffering right now. Do you wish you were never born or are you glad?
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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:19 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 10:15 pm)madog Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 10:10 pm)Lek Wrote: Who said anything about God not taking responsibility for his actions?
Me, because he doesn't exist .... but if you believe your god does please enlighten me 
God claims to be the creator of the universe. That makes him responsible for everything in the universe.
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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:19 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 10:17 pm)Lek Wrote: We've all suffered to attain something that's worth the suffering. We don't know how it all fits into eternity. Even God has suffered. Because suffering is unpleasant doesn't mean that it is bad. You're suffering right now. Do you wish you were never born or are you glad?
Utter nonsensical bullshit.
I have read much more convincing apologetics than that.
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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:22 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 1:35 pm)robvalue Wrote: Oh wait, it's also perfectly acceptable to do horrific stuff as long as the correct voice in your head is telling you to do it.
So sayeth the Bble.
God justly does horrific stuff, but not evil stuff. So sayth the bible. Tornadoes are horrific, but they're not evil.
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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:24 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 10:22 pm)Lek Wrote: God justly does horrific stuff, but not evil stuff. So sayth the bible. Tornadoes are horrific, but they're not evil.
Anything horrifically done to another is evil. That is true evil.
Evil is not that supernatural bullshit.
If a man was to do to another man or a people, as god has done, that man would be considered evil.
God committed genocide, so did Hitler.
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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:29 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 10:22 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 1:35 pm)robvalue Wrote: Oh wait, it's also perfectly acceptable to do horrific stuff as long as the correct voice in your head is telling you to do it.
So sayeth the Bble.
God justly does horrific stuff, but not evil stuff. So sayth the bible. Tornadoes are horrific, but they're not evil.
Uh lets see... horrific....
mass genocide - check
bashing babies over the rocks - check
killing misbehaving children - check
slavery - check
rape - check
for all of those horrific things and more
the christian bible
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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:29 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 10:24 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Anything horrifically done to another is evil. That is true evil.
Evil is not that supernatural bullshit.
If a man was to do to another man or a people, as god has done, that man would be considered evil.
God committed genocide, so did Hitler.
Do you feel that killing another human being is always evil?
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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:32 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 10:29 pm)Lek Wrote: Do you feel that killing another human being is always evil?
I am not falling for that.
Self defense is naturally excused.
Why does an all powerful God need self defense as an excuse for genocide?
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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:33 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 10:19 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 10:15 pm)madog Wrote: Me, because he doesn't exist .... but if you believe your god does please enlighten me
God claims to be the creator of the universe. That makes him responsible for everything in the universe.
No the religious claim that ....
What I have a problem with is .... which god do you mean?
Before some bright spark thought of the "One god" experiment it was easier to show each "Gods" short falls .... now there are millions of gods but all under the same name.
I know you will claim your God is the right God, but your god is probably different than every other denomination of "Christians" and just as likely to be totally different than every other member of your congregation. 
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RE: God is in charge of the world.
June 3, 2016 at 10:36 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 10:32 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 10:29 pm)Lek Wrote: Do you feel that killing another human being is always evil?
I am not falling for that.
Self defense is naturally excused.
Why does an all powerful God need self defense as an excuse for genocide?
All the nations that he told the Jews to wipe out would have wiped out the Jewish nation. They also would have killed a bunch of their own children.
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