Zenith posed the question, Would You Do It? in the Atheism Forum a couple days ago. Could you murder a man in cold-blood for his money if you yourself were made destitute. The scenario was not based in any kind of reality and the perameters were very undefined to say the least. So here you go ... this is the new hypothetical:

You will have to make an assumption of how you will feel in the hypothetical future. Make that assumption based off how you feel currently and how you might feel assuming that the following were completely real:

#1. You are a moderatly successful person in life. Not Rich. Not Poor.
#2. You have a spouse and a family pet both of whom you love dearly.
#3. One night, you arrive home late to find a strange man assaulting your spouse.
#4. You fight with the man but he overwhelms you, knocking you unconscious.
#5. You awaken the next morning to find both your spouse and your pet have been mutilated and killed.
#6. Knowing that you saw his face, the man framed you for your spouses murder and you receive a life sentence in prison.
#7. Thanks to bleeding heart liberals, overcrowding of federal prisons is common and you are parolled after 21 years of serving your sentence.
#8 You now have nothing. You are old. You are an x-con. You are destitute, and you will never see the life and famiy you were supposed to have.
#9 You see the mans face in a local advertisement for city councilman.

What do you do?
Can you kill a man for taking everything from you? You would only gain the money he has on-hand and perhaps some of his possessions. It's unlikely that there will be any evidence left to find him guilty and exonerate you. Maybe you leave vengeance to your god ... after all he said, "vengeance is mine saith the lord."


Or do you look at the man's face and think, "Yeah, I could definitely kill you."

(April 27, 2011 at 8:30 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: Zenith posed the question, Would You Do It? in the Atheism Forum a couple days ago. Could you murder a man in cold-blood for his money if you yourself were made destitute. The scenario was not based in any kind of reality and the perameters were very undefined to say the least. So here you go ... this is the new hypothetical:

You will have to make an assumption of how you will feel in the hypothetical future. Make that assumption based off how you feel currently and how you might feel assuming that the following were completely real:

#1. You are a moderatly successful person in life. Not Rich. Not Poor.
#2. You have a spouse and a family pet both of whom you love dearly.
#3. One night, you arrive home late to find a strange man assaulting your spouse.
#4. You fight with the man but he overwhelms you, knocking you unconscious.
#5. You awaken the next morning to find both your spouse and your pet have been mutilated and killed.
#6. Knowing that you saw his face, the man framed you for your spouses murder and you receive a life sentence in prison.
#7. Thanks to bleeding heart liberals, overcrowding of federal prisons is common and you are parolled after 21 years of serving your sentence.
#8 You now have nothing. You are old. You are an x-con. You are destitute, and you will never see the life and famiy you were supposed to have.
#9 You see the mans face in a local advertisement for city councilman.

What do you do?
Can you kill a man for taking everything from you? You would only gain the money he has on-hand and perhaps some of his possessions. It's unlikely that there will be any evidence left to find him guilty and exonerate you. Maybe you leave vengeance to your god ... after all he said, "vengeance is mine saith the lord."


Or do you look at the man's face and think, "Yeah, I could definitely kill you."

With nothing to lose, I'd say, do it. I'd probably be no better than that son of a bitch, but at least then, we'd be on an even keel.
All men are equal in death.-Publius Syrus

EDIT: WOO HOO! 500th post!

Another rigged poll...

(April 27, 2011 at 8:30 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: Zenith posed the question, Would You Do It? in the Atheism Forum a couple days ago. Could you murder a man in cold-blood for his money if you yourself were made destitute. The scenario was not based in any kind of reality and the perameters were very undefined to say the least. So here you go ... this is the new hypothetical:

You will have to make an assumption of how you will feel in the hypothetical future. Make that assumption based off how you feel currently and how you might feel assuming that the following were completely real:

... sigh....

Quote:#1. You are a moderatly successful person in life. Not Rich. Not Poor.
#2. You have a spouse and a family pet both of whom you love dearly.
#3. One night, you arrive home late to find a strange man assaulting your spouse.
#4. You fight with the man but he overwhelms you, knocking you unconscious.
#5. You awaken the next morning to find both your spouse and your pet have been mutilated and killed.
#6. Knowing that you saw his face, the man framed you for your spouses murder and you receive a life sentence in prison.
#7. Thanks to bleeding heart liberals, overcrowding of federal prisons is common and you are parolled after 21 years of serving your sentence.
#8 You now have nothing. You are old. You are an x-con. You are destitute, and you will never see the life and famiy you were supposed to have.
#9 You see the mans face in a local advertisement for city councilman.

What do you do?

Ummm... this example is so unrealistic given who I am that it isn't even worth the time answering. I can believe I'd be "moderately successful"... but I will never be married, have children, or have pets. This also is colored hard from a man's perspective. It is quite unrealistic for him to successfully frame you in the age of DNA evidence and the security camera(s) I would have outside my house. I would have committed suicide in prison years ago, death being an easier fate for me to take than boredom and shaving my hair on my head off.

Quote:Can you kill a man for taking everything from you? You would only gain the money he has on-hand and perhaps some of his possessions. It's unlikely that there will be any evidence left to find him guilty and exonerate you. Maybe you leave vengeance to your god ... after all he said, "vengeance is mine saith the lord."

Or do you look at the man's face and think, "Yeah, I could definitely kill you."

I will kill if I want to kill. Of course I can kill in vein of revenge.

I start with the jury who convicted me.

(April 27, 2011 at 9:49 pm)SpatiumTempusque Wrote: Another rigged poll...

Yes, but tell me how its rigged Spatium and I'll tell you if you're right.

(April 27, 2011 at 10:11 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:

(April 27, 2011 at 8:30 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: What do you do?

Quote:Can you kill a man for taking everything from you? You would only gain the money he has on-hand and perhaps some of his possessions. It's unlikely that there will be any evidence left to find him guilty and exonerate you. Maybe you leave vengeance to your god ... after all he said, "vengeance is mine saith the lord."

Or do you look at the man's face and think, "Yeah, I could definitely kill you."

I will kill if I want to kill. Of course I can kill in vein of revenge.

silly little Sae ... we already knew your answer honey. Would it make you happier if I posed more ridiculous questions like ... "who's the dirtiest on the forum?

Cinjin Cain Wrote:silly little Sae ... we already knew your answer honey. Would it make you happier if I posed more ridiculous questions like ... "who's the dirtiest on the forum?

Well I already did that, and the clear answer seems to be that we are all dirty people

Especially our staff. They all need to take a bath or six. Together, of course

But I know most people's answers to stuff by now. That's what happens when you're on a forum with the same people for a few years: you start skipping their posts because you've already read them in your mind and are rarely surprised

(April 27, 2011 at 11:01 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:

Cinjin Cain Wrote:silly little Sae ... we already knew your answer honey. Would it make you happier if I posed more ridiculous questions like ... "who's the dirtiest on the forum?

Well I already did that, and the clear answer seems to be that we are all dirty people

Especially our staff. They all need to take a bath or six. Together, of course

But I know most people's answers to stuff by now. That's what happens when you're on a forum with the same people for a few years: you start skipping their posts because you've already read them in your mind and are rarely surprised

I'll try to remember that little nugget of wisdom.

Cinjin Cain Wrote:I'll try to remember that little nugget of wisdom.

I once tried to fly off of the brooklyn bridge. I succeeded ^_^

(April 27, 2011 at 11:26 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:

Cinjin Cain Wrote:I'll try to remember that little nugget of wisdom.

I once tried to fly off of the brooklyn bridge. I succeeded ^_^