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FatAndFaithless · July 6, 2016 at 10:11 am

(July 6, 2016 at 10:08 am)Little Rik Wrote: If an animal would be aware of who he really is he probably would die straight away.
Just imagine to be encased into an animal body when in reality you are so much more than an animal.

I don't think I've used this image with anyone else nearly as much as I use it with Rik.

RozKek · July 6, 2016 at 10:12 am

(July 6, 2016 at 9:49 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 5, 2016 at 4:06 pm)RozKek Wrote:

Are you serious? I'm completely serious, 110% serious with this question. Do you not know that air and water are matter? Do you know what matter is? You're wrong, how do you justify it this time? Are you claiming that air and water aren't matter? Go collect your fucking nobel prize, genius. Good god, not overexaggerating but I never thought I'd stumble across an adult this thick-headed.

Imbecile.

If you take water and you turn it into ice you can well call it matter as much as you like.
The consciousness in that water had a certain degree of consciousness but by turning it into ice
the consciousness decreases to the level of matter so of course you can say that ice is matter.
At the same time if you turn a rock into ground and if you use that ground to grow a plant then
that rock that now turned into a plant increase her consciousness.
You can play with all these elements and change them if you want but as far as they are water and not ice they are water and as far as a rock is a rock and not a plant it is a rock.
You got to take them as they are now not what they may be if.
Right?

Ohh, and where did you get that from? Which credible and well supported scientist studied it and made the experiments? Your head gets thicker everyday doesn't it?

I_am_not_mafia · July 6, 2016 at 10:25 am

(July 6, 2016 at 10:08 am)Little Rik Wrote: If an animal would be aware of who he really is he probably would die straight away.
Just imagine to be encased into an animal body when in reality you are so much more than an animal.

Humans are animals too.

Crossless2.0 · July 6, 2016 at 10:32 am

(July 6, 2016 at 8:27 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 5, 2016 at 10:52 am)Crossless1 Wrote: No, dumbass, biological evolution is about heritable changes in populations -- it is not about individuals. Epic fail, as usual with you. I can't say I'm surprised though.

Imbecile.

Put it in this way.
50 years ago people watched black&white tv.
Today they watch color tv.
This is a change in people culture so to speak.
We got a myriad of similar changes.
People change their way to do thing so in a way it is a biological evolution but wait a minute Cross.
Do these changes really lead to a progress in conscious evolution?
Of course they don't that is why the word evolution should only be used when a change for the better in
the consciousness occur.
All the rest means absolutely nothing even if some idiots in the past reckon that changes in people culture means progress.
The same goes for changes in technologies.
They are just changes which do not necessary mean progress.
Today we have the fridge to keep food longer.
In the past they didn't but the food taste good and was devoid of chemicals and preservative.
So there is a change for the better and one for the worse.
In other words there is no progress and evolution means nothing.
Evolution can only be within but this is an argument too difficult to understand
for dreamer like you.
Have a good day anyway.

Listen, you blithering idiot, you really need to stop using the word evolution, unless you're addressing biological evolution. There are perfectly good synonyms for the word if you insist on rambling about technological change, cultural change, individual enlightenment, etc.

As it is, my post was in response to your continuing to conflate one with the other. Most people over the age of eight would understand the distinction.

**robvalue** · (This post was last modified: July 6, 2016 at 10:33 am by robvalue.)

Of course we're animals. Just ones with particular high opinions of themselves, who think they have magic properties and are of interest to celestial majesties.

~~Little Rik~~ · July 6, 2016 at 10:39 am

(July 6, 2016 at 10:25 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(July 6, 2016 at 10:08 am)Little Rik Wrote: If an animal would be aware of who he really is he probably would die straight away.
Just imagine to be encased into an animal body when in reality you are so much more than an animal.

Humans are animals too.

Some degree of instinct is still there in humans so in a way we are animals but with a big big difference.
A human being beside some instinct has also got the free will and this free will able him-her to go ahead
in the search for more consciousness but a dog can not do that he lack free will that is why an animal would die. Lightbulb

Lucanus · July 6, 2016 at 10:42 am

Rik, you know nothing. I'm not even going to argue with you at this point because you've proven you're a moron beyond redemption. Seriously.

What you are saying is beyond wrong, and it's showing that you lack a basic understanding of anything science-related. Please try to open your eyes for a second and look at what you're writing as if you did not believe it already, and tell me if you find it convincing and why.

E per favore piantala con le emoticon che stai sui coglioni a tutti.

~~Little Rik~~ · July 6, 2016 at 10:48 am

(July 6, 2016 at 10:32 am)Crossless1 Wrote:
(July 6, 2016 at 8:27 am)Little Rik Wrote: Imbecile.

Put it in this way.
50 years ago people watched black&white tv.
Today they watch color tv.
This is a change in people culture so to speak.
We got a myriad of similar changes.
People change their way to do thing so in a way it is a biological evolution but wait a minute Cross.
Do these changes really lead to a progress in conscious evolution?
Of course they don't that is why the word evolution should only be used when a change for the better in
the consciousness occur.
All the rest means absolutely nothing even if some idiots in the past reckon that changes in people culture means progress.
The same goes for changes in technologies.
They are just changes which do not necessary mean progress.
Today we have the fridge to keep food longer.
In the past they didn't but the food taste good and was devoid of chemicals and preservative.
So there is a change for the better and one for the worse.
In other words there is no progress and evolution means nothing.
Evolution can only be within but this is an argument too difficult to understand
for dreamer like you.
Have a good day anyway.

Listen, you blithering idiot, you really need to stop using the word evolution, unless you're addressing biological evolution. There are perfectly good synonyms for the word if you insist on rambling about technological change, cultural change, individual enlightenment, etc.

As it is, my post was in response to your continuing to conflate one with the other. Most people over the age of eight would understand the distinction.

Imbecile.

Evolution equal to progress.
Change doesn't necessary equal to progress.
There never was any progress in the material-physical arena and there will never be for the simple fact that this material-physical universe is balanced by both positive and negative.
Progress can only be achieved in the spiritual arena by evolving our consciousness therefore real evolution is confined to our consciousness alone.
Biological changes have nothing to do with evolution. Lightbulb

Crossless2.0 · July 6, 2016 at 10:59 am

(July 6, 2016 at 10:48 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 6, 2016 at 10:32 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Listen, you blithering idiot, you really need to stop using the word evolution, unless you're addressing biological evolution. There are perfectly good synonyms for the word if you insist on rambling about technological change, cultural change, individual enlightenment, etc.

As it is, my post was in response to your continuing to conflate one with the other. Most people over the age of eight would understand the distinction.

Imbecile.

Evolution equal to progress.
Change doesn't necessary equal to progress.
There never was any progress in the material-physical arena and there will never be for the simple fact that this material-physical universe is balanced by both positive and negative.
Progress can only be achieved in the spiritual arena by evolving our consciousness therefore real evolution is confined to our consciousness alone.
Biological changes have nothing to do with evolution.

Evolution (biological evolution) has nothing whatsoever to do with progress; it's about fitness and reproductive advantage and the changes in gene frequency over a population -- nothing more.

Change (cultural, technological, etc.) can be about progress but not necessarily. Your insistence on misusing the word 'evolution' and your penchant for idiotic analogies is not my problem, moron. Fuck off.

**Whateverist** · (This post was last modified: July 6, 2016 at 11:16 am by Whateverist.)

(July 6, 2016 at 9:37 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: I'd just like to say my imagination can kick your imagination's ass any day of the week, Rikmeister. I'm imagining that all that kool-aid you drank from that swami guy is the source of all your ideas. See how my imagination just assigned your imagined world to an inferior role in my own? That's pretty much what your imagination attempts to do to ours every day on these forums. No real harm really, otherwise we'd probably both be banned.

I take your non-response as confirmation of my assertion. Don't worry though. I won't lord it over you just because my imagination put the smack down on yours. You fought a good fight. You can't help it if you were fighting out of your weight class. I still think your imagination is cute, in a girlyman sort of way.

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