(July 26, 2016 at 12:31 pm)Mathilda Wrote: After all, it wasn't news but a collection of essays that were selectively pasted together.

Oh, and they're 'opinion' pieces, the very same kind that have been quoted in this very thread.

(July 26, 2016 at 12:58 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(July 26, 2016 at 12:31 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Was thinking the same thing myself.

Why am I not surprised...

Because you're a fascist and I'm a bleedin' 'eart do-gooder.

I think we've both established our political positions long ago, hence the reason for your comment must be to express contempt.

(July 26, 2016 at 1:00 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(July 26, 2016 at 12:31 pm)Mathilda Wrote: After all, it wasn't news but a collection of essays that were selectively pasted together.

Oh, and they're 'opinion' pieces, the very same kind that have been quoted in this very thread.

So what?

Lefties talking out their ass once again...

(July 26, 2016 at 1:03 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Is he really a fascist though? Or are you just exaggerating like you lefties usually do?

Err Captain Obvious calling. I was using the insults commonly used by both sides, hence the reason I called myself a bleedin' 'eart do-gooder.

But for the record, I do consider UKIP and Trump to be more fascist than right wing authoritarian due to the techniques that they use to garner support.

Propaganda.

(July 26, 2016 at 1:08 pm)Mathilda Wrote:

(July 26, 2016 at 1:03 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Is he really a fascist though? Or are you just exaggerating like you lefties usually do?

Err Captain Obvious calling. I was using the insults commonly used by both sides, hence the reason I called myself a bleedin' 'eart do-gooder.

But for the record, I do consider UKIP and Trump to be more fascist than right wing authoritarian due to the techniques that they use to garner support.

Lol.

(July 26, 2016 at 1:18 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:

(July 26, 2016 at 1:08 pm)Mathilda Wrote: But for the record, I do consider UKIP and Trump to be more fascist than right wing authoritarian due to the techniques that they use to garner support.

Lol.

That was an insightful and meaningful response, I shall go away and ponder that for all of 0 seconds.

To explain where I am coming from:

• Exceptionalism, they believe their race is superior
  
• Fiercely nationalistic
  
• Claim to be anti-establishment
  
• Right wing
  
• They deliberately appeal to the disenfranchised
  
• Yet are happy to also lie
  
• They demonise minorities
  
• They incite violence for political gain to the extent that the law allows
  
• Scape-goating of a foreign religions and immigrants
  
• They glorify the military
  

These really are established and well proven techniques. I recommend this book which seeks to identify what is and isn't fascism

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anatomy-Fascism...of+fascism

You might find it a bit too dry and erudite for your tastes though.

(July 26, 2016 at 1:34 pm)Mathilda Wrote: To explain where I am coming from:

• Exceptionalism, they believe their race is superior
  
• Fiercely nationalistic
  
• Claim to be anti-establishment
  
• Right wing
  
• They deliberately appeal to the disenfranchised
  
• Yet are happy to also lie
  
• They demonise minorities
  
• They incite violence for political gain to the extent that the law allows
  
• Scape-goating of a foreign religions and immigrants
  
• They glorify the military
  

Seems like an association fallacy to me. Basically Reductio ad Hitlerum. Might be able to argue for Trump on a couple of these but UKIP is stretching it IMO. But hey, lumping anything right of centre into one big pot of racism seems to be the done thing so have at it.

Could I interest you in my left wing Corbynite version?

• Feminism. Assume everyone is the same homogeneous mass except for when it comes to paying the bill
  
• Fiercely internationalist and multi-cultural
  
• Claim to be free thinking
  
• Left wing
  
• They deliberately appeal to pseudo-intellectuals
  
• Yet are happy to also lie (found this one amusing)
  
• They glorify cultural diversity
  
• Will be as vitriolic and inciteful as the right but claim they're progressive and peaceful
  
• Ignore obvious problems with foreign religions and mass immigration
  
• They glorify pacifism