How come Huggy one of the very few capable of realising God was talking about a humanoid snake, when almost every other Christian doesn't realise this? If he is correct, that makes God a terrible communicator.

(August 6, 2016 at 10:34 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Huggy Bear, your arguments to back up the whole "serpent sexually reproducing with humans" thing are still absurdly thin. It's based on readings of verses that take so many absurd liberties, reinterpreted to support the conclusion you were using them to support (does the term circular reasoning mean anything to you?), and the closest thing to a solid allusion is still perfectly compatible (and certainly makes more sense) with the offending passage read as a metaphor than literal, and even that verse still states that Cain and Abel were full brothers.

*emphasis mine*

How about you post the verse that says Cain and Abel were and I quote "full brothers"

(August 6, 2016 at 10:34 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: If you want to make a David Icke-meets-Marquis de Sade OTP Bible fanfic, that's fine, but if you're claiming it's canonical with the Bible, you're going to have to give a better argument. And having your argument hinge on the KJV being the sole arbiter of textual accuracy, despite being based on a text that is, by this point, considered by the vast majority of scholars to be inaccurate.

And zeroing in on one small sentence fragment and using it as an excuse to ignore the rest don't make your position look any better.

If you recall, I gave 3 examples in the bible where It shows that Cain was not Adams son, you only chose to focus on one.

You refer to "serpent seed" as a theory yet the bible clearly stated that the serpent had a seed (offspring)

Quote:Genesis 3
14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Furthermore, Cain is not mentioned in the genealogy of Adam, since the genealogy traces the bloodline through the firstborn son, Cain should have been included, except it skips him and starts with Seth. Cain has his own separate genealogy... explain that.

If all men descended from Adam, then why does the bible make a distinction between the sons of God and men?

Quote:Genesis 6 King James Version (KJV)
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

(August 7, 2016 at 12:04 pm)robvalue Wrote: How come Huggy one of the very few capable of realising God was talking about a humanoid snake, when almost every other Christian doesn't realise this? If he is correct, that makes God a terrible communicator.

Quote:Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Quote:Luke 13
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

(August 7, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 7, 2016 at 12:04 pm)robvalue Wrote: How come Huggy one of the very few capable of realising God was talking about a humanoid snake, when almost every other Christian doesn't realise this? If he is correct, that makes God a terrible communicator.

Quote:Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Quote:Luke 13
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    Reaching for the top shelf, huh? I'll say this for you, Huggy: When you double down on your fanciful bullshit, you really double down!

(August 7, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 7, 2016 at 12:04 pm)robvalue Wrote: How come Huggy one of the very few capable of realising God was talking about a humanoid snake, when almost every other Christian doesn't realise this? If he is correct, that makes God a terrible communicator.

Quote:Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Quote:Luke 13
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

What a horridly unjust being your God must be to create an entire planet of humans, and then make his message so difficult to understand that the majority of his precious lambs end up burning in hell for eternity.  It's a point I brought up a few pages ago actually (because, ya know, it relates to the OP) that you have ignored in favor of arguing about snake sex that obviously never happened except in your own imagination.  Thanks for playing though.  

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