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RE: Did you ever believe?
May 10, 2011 at 8:39 am
I was brainwashed from birth and so believed very much everything the Catholic church taught. At around age 29 or 30 I started listening to the serious doubts I was having and finally realized I didn't believe any more.
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RE: Did you ever believe?
May 10, 2011 at 9:13 am
Yes, as I recently stated in another thread, I hated having to come up with ad hoc explanations all the time to convince myself that everything in the bible is true. Once I realized I didn't believe any more, it felt like such a relief to not have to lie to myself any more. And the sad part was that I didn't realize I was constantly rationalizing until I stopped believing.
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RE: Did you ever believe?
May 10, 2011 at 9:43 am
I did not actively start going to church until I was about 11. My family, though we were Catholic, were not very dogmatic, and never forced their beliefs on anyone, including other family members. I never had a bad experience, but I could never accept what was being taught as historical or factual. I guess in a nutshell, I tried (I really did), but never "got" whatever it is religious folks "get" out of going.
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RE: Did you ever believe?
May 10, 2011 at 11:35 am
That's the Catholic church for you. The services are always so incredibly boring.
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RE: Did you ever believe?
May 10, 2011 at 1:41 pm
I prayed for things as a kid. I knew nothing about God and wasn't a Christian as kids can be. None of my selfish prayers were answered.
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RE: Did you ever believe?
May 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Yeah I believed, just like I believed in Santa and the Tooth Fairy and little trolls that live under a bridge.
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RE: Did you ever believe?
May 10, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Being the age I am ( 61 ) as a child at school I was caught in the trap of being compelled to believe in religion and the monarchy. On the very first day in school you had to shut your eyes and say a prayer. You also were expected to stand for national anthem and say " god save the queen ".
Thus the indoctrination of respecting the twin ogres of religion and royalty commenced.
I found the bible stories just plain wierd and nowhere near as interesting and entertaining as Greek mythology for example. I really couldn't see the point of talking to something that wasn't either visible or keen on talking back. In secondary school I persistently did not attend morning service and luckily for me, the school I attended was both progressive and liberal and so my non-attendance was tolerated ( I like to think that some of the teachers thought it was all rubbish too, although I never had the opportunity of discussing that ).
I think that it's very much the Father Xmas thing.....you reject the myth when you can think for yourself.
I went through the charade of getting married in church.....it meant nothing at all to me, just that it was expected. My family is not at all religious, which was a help.
Thus, ever since I could think for myself, I have rejected the notion of gods and despise organised religion which I consider a curse on humankind.
As for monarchy....I just despise the very notion of hereditary privilege and admire the French for their 1789 revolution!
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RE: Did you ever believe?
May 10, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I can't remember ever believing. I mostly enjoyed Religious Education in school. What child doesn't enjoy fairy tales? But it had no emotional impact on me at all. When an RE period ended I quickly moved on. Most of the other kids were equally unimpressed. Those Christians across the Atlantic who want RE taught in their schools should be careful what they wish for.