I've been thinking lately - if god has given us free will, the freedom to choose for ourselves, then he must be an atheist. Religion (Christianity in particular) is known for highjacking people's freedom for centuries (you'll either believe in god or we'll kill you), so free will can't come from religion. So, if god gave us the freedom to choose what to believe, that makes him an atheist.
What do you think about that thought?

Er...I'm not sure I really follow your logic here.

(August 15, 2016 at 3:19 pm)Atheist_BG Wrote: I've been thinking lately - if god has given us free will, the freedom to choose for ourselves, then he must be an atheist. Religion (Christianity in particular) is known for highjacking people's freedom for centuries (you'll either believe in god or we'll kill you), so free will can't come from religion. So, if god gave us the freedom to choose what to believe, that makes him an atheist.
What do you think about that thought?

He's given me free willy, I'm off to watch it.

I see what you mean.

God doesn't believe in himself because he gave us the choice of disbelieving in him instead of just making us do what he likes.

God has low self-esteem. Makes perfect sense. 10/10.

I had a feeling you'll be one of the few people who will understand what I meant.

(August 15, 2016 at 3:38 pm)Atheist_BG Wrote: I had a feeling you'll be one of the few people who will understand what I meant.

Oh, thanks, I make an effort

(August 15, 2016 at 3:19 pm)Atheist_BG Wrote: I've been thinking lately - if god has given us free will, the freedom to choose for ourselves, then he must be an atheist. Religion (Christianity in particular) is known for highjacking people's freedom for centuries (you'll either believe in god or we'll kill you), so free will can't come from religion. So, if god gave us the freedom to choose what to believe, that makes him an atheist.
What do you think about that thought?

The freedom for us to be self determined is spatially based. All God has to do is provide the space (and order it) for us to move and have our being.

No self doubt is required on God's part.

You give one modern, generalized example then extrapolate that to all religions, then extrapolate that to God? I've seen theists with better logic trains....not many.

Supposedly he gives us the freedom to choose, but it isn't really freedom. It's like a guy pointing a gun to a woman's head, telling her to suck his dick or he'll shoot her. It's not a choice. It's an ultimatum.

(August 15, 2016 at 4:28 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Supposedly he gives us the freedom to choose, but it isn't really freedom. It's like a guy pointing a gun to a woman's head, telling her to suck his dick or he'll shoot her. It's not a choice. It's an ultimatum.

And where is God's "gun"?

(August 15, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 15, 2016 at 4:28 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Supposedly he gives us the freedom to choose, but it isn't really freedom. It's like a guy pointing a gun to a woman's head, telling her to suck his dick or he'll shoot her. It's not a choice. It's an ultimatum.

And where is God's "gun"?

The mainstream christian belief is that there's a lake of fire where people are sent if they don't follow the religion. So basically worship this guy, or he sets you on fire.