There are none...

Except Arkilouge, he or she's pretty smart.

There are tons of good humans worldwide, there is simply bad logic even otherwise reasonable people fall for because of tradition and or fear.

Pretty sure this is where I say “Why do you call me good? There is no one good but The One God.”


But thanks for the positive reflection! It is appreciated. =)

(August 28, 2016 at 6:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There are tons of good humans worldwide, there is simply bad logic even otherwise reasonable people fall for because of tradition and or fear.

Yup.

And I'm one of those crazy people who cares a hell of a lot more about how people act than what they believe.  I know plenty of theists who are amazing people.

(August 28, 2016 at 6:55 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(August 28, 2016 at 6:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There are tons of good humans worldwide, there is simply bad logic even otherwise reasonable people fall for because of tradition and or fear.

Yup.

And I'm one of those crazy people who cares a hell of a lot more about how people act than what they believe.  I know plenty of theists who are amazing people.

Funnily enough, Jesus said the same thing.

(August 28, 2016 at 6:59 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 28, 2016 at 6:55 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Yup.

And I'm one of those crazy people who cares a hell of a lot more about how people act than what they believe.  I know plenty of theists who are amazing people.

Funnily enough, Jesus said the same thing.

Funnily enough, not being a hypocritical dick isn't a novel idea.

(August 28, 2016 at 7:00 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(August 28, 2016 at 6:59 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Funnily enough, Jesus said the same thing.

Funnily enough, not being a hypocritical dick isn't a novel idea.

Some are more self disciplined than others. What's the best way to safely navigate a sea of hypocritical dicks?

(August 28, 2016 at 6:55 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(August 28, 2016 at 6:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There are tons of good humans worldwide, there is simply bad logic even otherwise reasonable people fall for because of tradition and or fear.

Yup.

And I'm one of those crazy people who cares a hell of a lot more about how people act than what they believe.  I know plenty of theists who are amazing people.

Me too, my mom still takes communion, and doesn't got to church, only takes it when a priest comes about to where she is at. And she knows exactly how I feel about god claims. She is my biggest supporter, even to this day for someone my age. I would not trade her for the world. But it still, as much as I love her, does not make her god real. 

I can value the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, but that does not make the god of the bible real. I can value the likes of Ann Frank, but that does not make Yahweh a real god. I can value the likes of Malala, but that does not make Allah a real god. To me, it shows the empathy our species has always had and does not need a cosmic sky wizard to explain. But, you still have to deal with reality and that 7 billion humans will never agree on all things all the time. Not even atheists agree all the time.

(August 28, 2016 at 7:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I can value the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, but that does not make the god of the bible real. I can value the likes of Ann Frank, but that does not make Yahweh a real god. I can value the likes of Malala, but that does not make Allah a real god. To me, it shows the empathy our species has always had and does not need a cosmic sky wizard to explain. But, you still have to deal with reality and that 7 billion humans will never agree on all things all the time. Not even atheists agree all the time.

Completely reasonable.

But can you value the fact that what they accomplish comes from the strength of their convictions/belief and the will to bring more out of themselves comes from a sense of responsibility to/praise for a greater being?

(August 28, 2016 at 7:05 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 28, 2016 at 7:00 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Funnily enough, not being a hypocritical dick isn't a novel idea.

Some are more self disciplined than others.  What's the best way to safely navigate a sea of hypocritical dicks?

To not be one?  And to not associate with raging examples of such?

I'm also a firm believer that we're responsible for the company we keep.  Which is why I'm happy that while I don't have many true friends, they're indeed true.  I know I can count on them, and them me.