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We should listen to this
#1
We should listen to this
The Global Commission on Drug Policy released it's results of the war on drugs and here's a quick article about it-
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110602/wl_n...commission

If you want the full write up, you can download the pdf here-
http://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/Report

I've been saying all along that criminalizing drugs was the wrong way to go about it, but not many people in the U.S. want to hear it. All the crime surrounding drugs is because of its criminalization, and if we just educate people how to use them, they wouldn't be the problem in our society that they are.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is a fix all. People will do stupid things on drugs like they do now with the one legal drug, alcohol. But alcohol seems to get a pass on its detrimental effects on people, while the other drugs are chastised for it. The only difference between alcohol and other drugs are their social origins.
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#2
RE: We should listen to this
Yes, in recent years I've started to think they should legalize marijuana. It's not a harmful drug like cocaine, methamphetamine, or heroin. You never see anyone selling everything they have and stealing from other people because they have a pot habit.

I'm still not in favor of legalizing other hard drugs, but it's clear that the war on drugs is a total failure.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#3
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All for legalisation of some, and decriminalisation of all the others.

Legalise - Marijuana, hash, mescaline, shrooms, spice, natural psychedelics, alcohol (already there), tobacco (already there). You know, all the lite stuff that doesnt fuck up peoples lives as quick as the problem drugs do..with the exception of alcohol, of course.

Alcohol seems to be a special class all of its own.

decriminalise - Coke, crack, heroine, etc... Small amounts should not be bothered with. Decent size amounts should be ticketed and the people should be remanded to drug rehab, not jail. Large amounts and manufacture should be jailed short term, penalized heavily monetarily to help pay for the rehab system...thats a good use for drug money. These are the "problem drugs".

Drugs should never, ever constitute a felony no matter if you have a pinch of coke, or an entire coke factory.

Drugs are a health issue, not a criminal issue.
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#4
RE: We should listen to this
Do it like my country did
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#5
RE: We should listen to this
(June 2, 2011 at 10:42 pm)Ashendant Wrote: Do it like my country did

Economic advise from portugal? Heart
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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#6
RE: We should listen to this
Legalize all drugs. If people want to mess around with weird substances, let them. Their body, their decision. We let people kill themselves by eating unhealthy food, or drinking / smoking themselves to death. Why not let the drug themselves to death too?

Besides, according to peer-reviewed research in the Lancet, alcohol and tobacco (i.e. the two most commonly legalized drugs) are also two of the most dangerous. If you legalize the others, market forces (or government regulation for you lefties out there) will make the drugs "safer".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/n...-drug-list
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#7
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I'll make the drugs all safer if that's what you all want: I'll keep you all from obtaining them with this!

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Why the hell would anyone want safe drugs anyway? Drugs are like money: it's worthless if it's just sitting there!
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#8
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Those "market forces" you mention Adrian are running the drug cartels, now. They are perfect little capitalists aren't they? They take all the risks. They make all the money. They bribe whoever needs bribing.


Supply and demand run amok!
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But how do you go from criminalization to decriminalization with minimal counter swing?
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RE: We should listen to this
(June 3, 2011 at 2:56 am)tackattack Wrote: But how do you go from criminalization to decriminalization with minimal counter swing?

With lots and lots of

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...

I actually don't understand what 'minimal counter swing' or decriminalization or criminalization are...
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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