(October 20, 2016 at 11:06 pm)Shell B Wrote: The only interactions he's bothered to have with me have been started by him and always negative.

This is the second time you've passed this lie. The first time, I said nothing.

But so far as I've seen, you take any disagreement and reply with ugliness -- posting pictures of tampons, telling people they have their heads up their asses, calling folks SJWs when in fact that wasn't their motivation. I've disagreed with you, and started off with civility, only to have shit thrown back at me.

But I make change in the coin tendered. If you are insulting to me -- and you have been, no doubt -- you will not get roses and a card. Sorry about your bad luck; life just doesn't work that way.

You want courtesy? Give it. Making assumptions about how I'm an "SJW", telling me to pull my head out of my ass when I haven't talked to you in that manner ... well, that will get my hackles up. If you expect silence from me, you'll be sadly let-down.

If you want the quality of our interactions to rise, you're going to have to heft a little yourself. Shitcan the attitude, don't talk down to me, and if you give insult don't get butthurt when it's returned. Pretty simple.

(October 20, 2016 at 11:09 pm)Shell B Wrote: Lol, @thump, Yeah, I am callous. I don't hide behind sarcastic drivel. You were rude to me first, and because I called you a prick, you play the victim. Take fucking responsibility for being the first to get on this train, ya panty waist.

lol, delude much?

(October 20, 2016 at 11:19 pm)Losty Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 11:15 pm)Shell B Wrote: Sorry, whateverist, buddy. Thump isn't friend or family. I don't care what he's going through. He's less appealing to me than Drich. People must like him for a reason, so I guess he's not always sanctimonious, but I have reservations.

I don't always agree with him but I think he's a good guy. He's a loyal friend to a fault sometimes. Hopefully this ONI stuff will die down soon and you'll get to see why people like him. This kind of stuff tends to bring out the worst in people. I'm ready to see everyone go back to business as usual.

I'm pretty much always like this, but I'm never opposed to changing my mind about someone else.

(October 20, 2016 at 11:10 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 11:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Yeah, there's another strawman.

I'm honestly not sure how you find it so hard to believe that the staff isn't a democracy. There's no gain for me having some kind of overreaching power here. Its an internet forum for fucks sake.

I didn't say it isn't a democracy, Tibs. What I said was, in essence: you own the place. Your word has more weight, whether or not you realize it.

I really wish you'd read what I'm writing.

(October 20, 2016 at 11:15 pm)Shell B Wrote: Sorry, whateverist, buddy. Thump isn't friend or family. I don't care what he's going through. He's less appealing to me than Drich. People must like him for a reason, so I guess he's not always sanctimonious, but I have reservations.

This isn't sanctimony. This is conversation. I'm not saying staff is bad for the decision they've made, I'm saying I don't think it's a smart decision and it will harm the forum. There's a difference.

Every member of staff (present and past) that's posted, has told you that this isn't the case Thump.  It really isn't.
(the weight of his word)

(October 20, 2016 at 11:29 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 11:15 pm)Shell B Wrote: Sorry, whateverist, buddy. Thump isn't friend or family. I don't care what he's going through. He's less appealing to me than Drich. People must like him for a reason, so I guess he's not always sanctimonious, but I have reservations.

This isn't sanctimony. This is conversation. I'm not saying staff is bad for the decision they've made, I'm saying I don't think it's a smart decision and it will harm the forum. There's a difference.

And what you apparently don't get is that we, as a matter of staff consensus, would prefer to shut the whole thing down than compromise on core principles.

Whether we would lose members over a policy was not part of the calculus nor will it likely ever be.

If acting with integrity isn't smart, then I for one am happy to be counted amongst the stupid.

I'm about done with this issue, frankly.

I was speaking to your interactions with me, in which you were snide and bitchy but called foul when I told you that you were being a dick. That's intellectually dishonest and sanctimonious. Feel free to try to get off on a better foot, but please don't pretend you were tip toeing quietly through a sparkling wood when you accosted by the big bad Shell B.

(October 20, 2016 at 11:02 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 10:38 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I know what happens behind those steel curtains.    

I know what happens behind those roast beef curtains!   

Whatever just happened here I whole heartedly approve of.

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(October 20, 2016 at 11:36 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: And what you apparently don't get is that we, as a matter of staff consensus, would prefer to shut the whole thing down than compromise on core principles.

Whether we would lose members over a policy was not part of the calculus nor will it likely ever be.

If acting with integrity isn't smart, then I for one am happy to be counted amongst the stupid.

I'm about done with this issue, frankly.

This, people. ^^^

(October 20, 2016 at 11:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Every member of staff (present and past) that's posted, has told you that this isn't the case Thump.  It really isn't.
(the weight of his word)

Okay. I'll stand down.