(November 6, 2016 at 9:03 am)A Theist Wrote:

(November 6, 2016 at 8:48 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: So you're cool with my whole family losing their insurance, including my toddler?  Thanks, asshole.  My husband is a small business owner and busts his ASS, btw; and practically hemorrhages money toward federal income tax every year.  Yeah, you and trump are really for the hard-working middle class, aren't you?  Wish I had a middle finger emoji...

No, I'm not cool with working families losing their health care coverage. I don't have a problem with working people who pay into the "system" to reap the benefits they're paying for. I do have a problem paying into a system where people who don't contribute get benefits for free that we pay for but we can't afford the purchase price for those same benefits . Obamacare isn't the answer. At least you can better afford it than I can.

Positive case for a Trump presidency? There isn't much, but there are a few things:

1. He's friends with Putin. I don't understand why not wanting World War Three is a bad thing. Hilary, meanwhile, would love to shoot down Russian planes in Syria (no-fly-zone). Hilary wants regime change in Syria because she is a slave to the Saudis and the Qataris.

2. The neo-cons hate Trump because he's not as militant as Clinton.

3. He doesn't like NATO (as far as I'm aware). He's said many countries with US military bases are ungrateful and would like to remove military bases from numerous countries (which I think is a good idea). I happen to think NATO is past its useful life. It scares me how many US military bases there are around the world.

4. He's not a neo-macarthtist like Clinton. What's with all the Russiophobia coming from Clinton and her cronies? Why do they love McCarthyism so much?

That's all I got for now.

(November 6, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: You gotta be fuckacting with that kind of statement:
1) Inherits a big wedge from his father; check
2) Thinks he's above the law; check
3) Gets a new trophy wife every five years; check
4) Expects everybody else to pay for his fuck ups; check
5) Has a sense of entitlement a mile wide; check
6) Always thinks he's right, and only employs yesmen; check

If Drumpfuck is not establishment, then neither is Karl von Saxe Coburg und Gotha, current heir to the British throne.

As I've already explained, whether he is or isn't is besides the point. There's a group of people who think he does not represent it and they're going to vote for him on that basis. Compared to Hillary, he certainly isn't part of the political establishment.

I have nothing against Russians as a people, nor even their government n general. But Putin is a monster. I hope they get their government back someday soon.

I trained a couple of Russians to use our company computer systems back in the 90s. We were working on one of the Chevron installations in Kazakhstan. They were great, friendly, smart fellas. I remember how they'd sit with unlit cigarettes at their desks, and how comical an office full of adults dressing up for Halloween was to them. Our cultures our different, but they are good people like us. They don't deserve our fear, or scorn, or their tyrannical current president.

In a perfect world we'd all get along.

Quote:There's a group of people who think he does not represent it and they're going to vote for him on that basis.

We know, Naps..... there ARE stupid people everywhere.  Hopefully, they will not be a majority.

(November 6, 2016 at 8:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:There's a group of people who think he does not represent it and they're going to vote for him on that basis.

We know, Naps..... there ARE stupid people everywhere.  Hopefully, they will not be a majority.

Otherwise, Hillary wins.

(November 5, 2016 at 1:50 am)Yeauxleaux Wrote: Positive case? Is there one? I literally can't think of one redeeming characteristic of that man.

I thought of one!

He'll die eventually.

(November 6, 2016 at 8:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:There's a group of people who think he does not represent it and they're going to vote for him on that basis.

We know, Naps..... there ARE stupid people everywhere.  Hopefully, they will not be a majority.

Stupid people who seem to be incredibly blind to the consequences of essentially throwing the country into anarchy.

Some of them claim that he will 'shake things up in Washington.'  So would an earthquake and they rarely work out for the better.

(November 6, 2016 at 6:34 pm)ReptilianPeon Wrote: He's friends with Putin. I don't understand why not wanting World War Three is a bad thing. Hilary, meanwhile, would love to shoot down Russian planes in Syria (no-fly-zone). Hilary wants regime change in Syria because she is a slave to the Saudis and the Qataris.

You need to understand that there is a big difference between not wanting war and being unwilling to go to war. The latter will get you bulldozed by the likes of Putin. Hillary will not be pushed around but she doesn't want war any more than you do. And I've got news for you: Putin doesn't want war either. He does want a US President he can manipulate - which is why he is salivating at the thought of Trump in the oval office. All you need to do to manipulate a weak-minded, egotistical fool like Trump is flatter him. Putin was head of the KBG and is no-doubt highly skilled at it. Trump isn't his friend; he's his stooge.

Hillary a slave to the Saudis and the Qataris? How exactly is she under their control?