(November 15, 2016 at 12:34 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: The historical reasons for holding the election on a Tuesday are obsolete.

What was the reason for tuesday? We traditionally hold our elections on a sunday for the last 150 years.

(November 15, 2016 at 2:26 pm)abaris Wrote: What was the reason for tuesday? We traditionally hold our elections on a sunday for the last 150 years.

According to John Oliver at least, it's because Farmers didn't want to travel on the sabbath, so they would leave to go vote on Monday, and then vote on Tuesday.

even in those days the idea of Sabbath actually being sunset Friday to sunset Saturday was lost on those damn heretics

(November 15, 2016 at 2:22 pm)Divinity Wrote:

(November 15, 2016 at 1:30 pm)Chad32 Wrote: They had a media blackout on Bernie. They set up at least some of the democratic debates on Saturday night, which is a poor night to expect people to sit at home and watch a debate. They made it harder for independents to vote on the election. There's evidence that Hillary was given questions prior to debates, when Bernie wasn't. The DNC did things that helped stifle Bernie. I consider the fact that he was never mathematically eliminated as being close to winning. Maybe you're right, and we do have different definitions of "almost lost/won", but the DNC was helping Hillary.

The fact is, Bernie has high favorables, and Hillary has high unfavorables. I don't see how her winning was a forgone conclusion, aside from the establishment being deeply corrupt.

They had TWO debates on Saturday Night.  The second and third ones... back in November 2015. That includes the several forums they had as well btw.  

Do you really think Hillary having advanced knowledge of the questions helped her change the mind of thousands of voters?  Do you really?  

The corporate media was never going to give Sanders much air time (though he did get plenty of time at most of the debates).  

The DNC showed bias, but they didn't really affect the results.  I donated to the Sanders campaign btw.  And I'll donate to the Liz Warren campaign in 2020 if she chooses to run.  But I'm not going to pretend like the DNC actually changed anything by their brazenly stupid show of bias.   What's mind boggling about it all is that it was so unnecessary.  Like Watergate.

I think it helped her prepare her answers. You really don't think there was anything shady going on in the primary? You trust the DNC that much?

Then the media isn't doing its job. Not that we didn't already know mainstream media is largely bought off.

How could brazen bias not change anything? I legitimately don't understand you. Different definitions of things, I guess?.....

(November 15, 2016 at 4:44 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I think it helped her prepare her answers. You really don't think there was anything shady going on in the primary? You trust the DNC that much?

Then the media isn't doing its job. Not that we didn't already know mainstream media is largely bought off.

How could brazen bias not change anything? I legitimately don't understand you. Different definitions of things, I guess?.....

Shady, yes.  I just don't think it affected anything.  What did it really change?  Hillary had more time to prepare her answers, but it's not as if her answers would suddenly be so much better to actually change the minds of so many people.  It's like Tom Brady deflating the footballs.  Is it shady?  Absolutely.  Did it really affect the outcome?  I don't think it did.  Makes you wonder why Tom/The DNC did it in the first fucking place, but I guess they thought it affected the outcome. Even though it didn't really do anything to help them.

(November 15, 2016 at 11:19 am)alpha male Wrote:

(November 13, 2016 at 1:52 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I am a just-shy 50 white dude, and my wife and I, and our oldest daughter and son, all voted for Hillary.  What the hell is going on with the US?!

I'm an over-50 white dude, my wife and I voted Trump, and our oldest daughter voted Johnson for pres, Republican for the rest of the races.

What's going on in the US? People have differences of opinion, that's all.

Sure, and it is an "opinion" that humans walked along dinosaurs or that the Earth is the center of the Cosmos or that it is even flat, like a pancake.  A vote for Trump was a vote for death, that is, the death of the human race.  Such is not an "opinion".

(November 15, 2016 at 2:26 pm)abaris Wrote:

(November 15, 2016 at 12:34 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: The historical reasons for holding the election on a Tuesday are obsolete.

What was the reason for tuesday? We traditionally hold our elections on a sunday for the last 150 years.

Test your trivia:

http://www.howtogeek.com/trivia/the-u.s....ecause-of/

(November 15, 2016 at 7:48 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Sure, and it is an "opinion" that humans walked along dinosaurs or that the Earth is the center of the Cosmos or that it is even flat, like a pancake.  A vote for Trump was a vote for death, that is, the death of the human race.  Such is not an "opinion".

Yes, that's an opinion. Underlining it doesn't change it to a fact.

(November 15, 2016 at 8:17 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 15, 2016 at 7:48 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Sure, and it is an "opinion" that humans walked along dinosaurs or that the Earth is the center of the Cosmos or that it is even flat, like a pancake.  A vote for Trump was a vote for death, that is, the death of the human race.  Such is not an "opinion".

Yes, that's an opinion. Underlining it doesn't change it to a fact.

Your "opinion" (and the intellectually bankrupt religion that you profess which no doubt clouds your judgment of the real world) is an invitation to live one's life in a world of schizophrenia, something that I adamantly refuse to do.  Go ahead and embrace Trump's capitalistic mindset to the exclusion of minimal environment sanity (which the Democrats at least tried to embrace), and you will be free, if you live to see it, to label the death of millions of human beings from catastrophic climate change as simply being a "statistic".  Your are no different than the alcoholic who believes that he/she can drink as much as they want without ever getting intoxicated and who labels anyone who claims to the contrary as simply being "opinionated".

(November 15, 2016 at 8:33 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Your "opinion" (and the intellectually bankrupt religion that you profess which no doubt clouds your judgment of the real world) is an invitation to live one's life in a world of schizophrenia, something that I adamantly refuse to do.

How is the world of anger and paranoid delusion that you DO live in any better?