(November 19, 2016 at 11:46 am)Elskidor Wrote: I signed the one that's already at 5 million signatures. I'd just add to that one vs starting more and more of the same petitions dividing signatures everywhere.

Please, if you would, post it here; I would love to sign it!!

(November 18, 2016 at 10:33 pm)Sterben Wrote: I have to agree with the others, it's a waste of time and internet bandwidth. If you think that they will over turn an election your living in dream land. He's gonna be our president for the next four to eight years. Let's just ride out the storm and hope that our relationship with Japan and other important countries does not fall apart. I'm glad I can't be drafted due to the last born male clause and I'm not having children.

Last born male clause ? 

(November 19, 2016 at 8:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 18, 2016 at 9:36 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: If it's USians only, why am I able to sign it as well?

'USian' is a term I have trademarked and copyrighted.  Use it again, and you'll be hearing from my solicitors.

Boru

That's cute. Fuck off now. 

(November 19, 2016 at 1:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(November 18, 2016 at 9:36 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: If it's USians only, why am I able to sign it as well?

You can, of course!  However, some critics will no doubt criticize the petition for the fact that non-voting US individuals, whether in the US or not, signed it.  Still, it's doing quite well compared to other petitions.  In fact, I think that this one might be the #1 in terms of signatures.

That doesn't make it right for you to preclude me to sign it. I believe this site's
"constitution" upholds my right in that sense , if only tangentially, in this case.

How about this: Make every registered voter who casts a vote an Elector. I'm fairly sure I've read that smaller US states have a higher (proportional) voter turn out than larger ones. If this is the case, then a state like Connecticut would have a rough equivalency with a large state like California.

I'm no expert on the US Constitution, but it strikes me that this could be done as a sort of end-run around the amendment process. If I'm wrong, please help me to get my head out of me arse. It smells funny in here.

Boru

(November 18, 2016 at 11:15 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Before I go puke, did I miss anything there ?

Yes, you missed the fact that Clinton still won more votes, and the fact that the electoral college is one of the least democratic ways of electing a national president.

This is about fixing a broken electoral system where the winner can lose, something which has happened 5 times.

Great Compromise keeps rearing up in my thoughts . . .

(November 19, 2016 at 1:56 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(November 18, 2016 at 10:33 pm)Sterben Wrote: I have to agree with the others, it's a waste of time and internet bandwidth. If you think that they will over turn an election your living in dream land. He's gonna be our president for the next four to eight years. Let's just ride out the storm and hope that our relationship with Japan and other important countries does not fall apart. I'm glad I can't be drafted due to the last born male clause and I'm not having children.

Last born male clause ? 

(November 19, 2016 at 8:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 'USian' is a term I have trademarked and copyrighted.  Use it again, and you'll be hearing from my solicitors.

Boru

That's cute. Fuck off now. 

(November 19, 2016 at 1:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote: You can, of course!  However, some critics will no doubt criticize the petition for the fact that non-voting US individuals, whether in the US or not, signed it.  Still, it's doing quite well compared to other petitions.  In fact, I think that this one might be the #1 in terms of signatures.

That doesn't make it right for you to preclude me to sign it. I believe this site's
"constitution" upholds my right in that sense , if only tangentially, in this case.

Of course you can sign it!  That's fine; if the site organizers wanted to restrict it to US voting residents, they could certainly do that.  As for me, I have never signed a petition concerning an issue in another country, but "the more, the merrier," I suppose!!!

(November 19, 2016 at 12:34 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I signed it. Granted, the Republicans have regained control of the Presidency, Senate, and House and will refuse to accept any change that isn't for the worse, and it won't likely do anything. In Republican America, as in the days of Thucydides, the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. It's not like they give a shit about the will of the people, except when it coincides with their own agenda. But, hey, at least it's something.

I wouldn't be surprised that the republicans' strategy going forward vis a vis the electorate will be to bring back property qualifications (and Sanskrit literacy qualifications for all non whites).

(November 19, 2016 at 3:05 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(November 19, 2016 at 1:56 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Last born male clause ? 


That's cute. Fuck off now. 


That doesn't make it right for you to preclude me to sign it. I believe this site's
"constitution" upholds my right in that sense , if only tangentially, in this case.

Of course you can sign it!  That's fine; if the site organizers wanted to restrict it to US voting residents, they could certainly do that.  As for me, I have never signed a petition concerning an issue in another country, but "the more, the merrier," I suppose!!!

Wow . . .  Are you happy being so passive aggressive ?

(November 19, 2016 at 2:26 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Great Compromise keeps rearing up in my thoughts . . .

What great compromise?

without which there wouldn't be a country Great Compromise.

High school American gov 101