(December 28, 2016 at 2:48 am)21stCenturyIconoclast Wrote:

(December 27, 2016 at 6:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'm curious, 21st - how exactly does one distinguish between a pseudo-Christian and the genuine article?

Boru

BrianSoddingBoru4,


PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN:  Anyone that erroneously professes to be a Christian, no matter what division of the primitive faith they’ve swallowed, 
that does not follow the entire inspired word of their god named Yahweh within their primitive Bronze and Iron Age Judeo-Christian bible. 

Other attributes of the pseudo-christian, which are many, are that they run away from disturbing and horrific passages and narratives as they turn
themselves not pretzels as they try in vain to anachronistically explain them away through their insidious pseudo-christian hermeneutics and apologetics.  

“Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5)  Every word includes the 613 laws within
the horrific Old Testament, unless the pseudo-christian wants to call their Yahweh god a LIAR!  

“And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.” (Luke 4:4) Every word of 
Yahweh includes the Old Testament that Jesus explicitly said to follow relative to his Sermon on the Mount, unless the pseudo-christian
 wants to call Jesus a LIAR! 


Subjectively, the foremost examples of a pseudo-christian within this forum, at this time, and that have been easily shut down relative to their primitive faith,
is Yahweh’s Child, ex God’s Child, Catholic Lady, and Phillip 2.    Granted, more will be forthcoming. 


GENUINE ARTICLE:  This type of Christian is a rare breed for sure.. This is because if they actually followed ALL of their primitive bible, no matter which one 
of the approximate 325 DIFFERENT versions, they would do prison time! Imagine following some of the listed commands and acceptances by their primitive god
as shown below, which are only a few of many, and the ramifications thereof!  

Christians are to KILL non-believers. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)
Christians are to stone to death women that are not virgins on their wedding night. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)
Christians are to beat their children (Proverbs.23:13-14)
Christians can kill their kids that curse them, and Jesus condones this act by not saying it was wrong   (Matthew 15: 3-4)
Christians are to love their enemy, even Osama Bin Laden  (Matthew 5:44)


Just think of the inept mind set that still follows this primitive cult in the 21st century?  



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What gives you the idea that Christians must abide by Jewish law?

(December 29, 2016 at 7:02 pm)21stCenturyIconoclast Wrote: FatAndFaithless:  Mr. Brown, I am sorry that your 6 year old daughter died.

Jehovah Witness:  Thank you Mr. FatAndFaithless, we miss her, but we gain solace in that she is in heaven with Yahweh god.

Minor correction, from a former JW: the parents of the child would not express the belief that she was in heaven with God. They would expect God to resurrect her after the world was remade as a paradise following Armageddon. The rest is, sadly, true. And sadder still considering that the Watchtower Society has changed their stance on the 'blood issue' to allow everything except the transfusion of whole blood. It's as if they realize that the view is untenable, but can't just walk it back. And if people have to die as a result...

(December 29, 2016 at 7:02 pm)21stCenturyIconoclast Wrote:

(December 29, 2016 at 4:48 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Everyone has an asshole, some people are assholes.  Your ass must be jealous of the amount of shit that comes out of your mouth.

FatAndFaithless,


Okay, the alleged shit that comes out of my mouth shows the pseudo-christian to be the fools that they are.  
Therefore, you just keep your status quo stance by letting them promote their ideology without adamantly combating them,
 and just remain a wussy namby pamby atheist in the 21st century.  Don't forget your grammies and warm milk tonight
before you go to bed, okay?


FatAndFaithless:  Mr. Brown, I am sorry that your 6 year old daughter died.

Jehovah Witness:  Thank you Mr. FatAndFaithless, we miss her, but we gain solace in that she is in heaven with Yahweh god.

FatAndFaithless:  How did she die?

Jehovah Witness:  She had to die because our JW division of Christianity does not allow blood-transfusions, even in the most severe
circumstances, as she was hit by a car and was bleeding profusely when the ambulance arrived.

FatAndFaithless:  Uh, okay, that sounds reasonable if you follow your faith in this respect.


FATANDFAITHLESS; DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE NEW ATHEISTS MODUS OPERANDI RELATIVE TO THE DAMAGING EFFECTS OF PRIMITIVE 
RELIGIONS AND THEIR DIVISIONS THEREOF,  AND WHAT THEY REPRESENT TO THE INNOCENT CHILD, LET ALONE THEIR OTHER
DISGUSTING ASPECTS RELATIVE TO SOCIETY?


FatAndFaithless, you just remain the pussy Atheist, that fits you so well, and don't you ever confront the pseudo-christian in a manner that drives home the 
ramifications of their primitive belief!  Understood?

You're dismissed.



m

You understand that you aren't actually talking to anyone, right? How do you expect to alter any theist's perspective on religion if you can't even have an genuine discussion with one? I mean...they're people just like you, you know. You could try introducing yourself to one of our resident theists, asking them some questions about themselves and/or their beliefs, and having a discussion like two normal human beings would. Net-screaming blanket insults at entire groups of people over and over, like they aren't even human beings, is only going to get you banned for trolling. You haven't scared any resident Christians away with your nonsense...they're just ignoring you, because you're shouting AT them instead of talking TO them.

LFC, that does not fit into his delusion of greatness. Totally beneath him.

(December 29, 2016 at 3:35 pm)21stCenturyIconoclast Wrote:

(December 28, 2016 at 8:38 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Since you "get in the face" of all theists indiscriminately with, if not every, almost every post. Trolling, flaming, spamming, call it what you will it still comes down to you being an asshole to people you don't even know for reasons you can't pin on them.

Bastard, 


I am so sorry that you're disturbed by me vehemently going against the primitive Bronze and Iron Age belief in Christianity in the way that I do.

As a "New Atheist," I follow its decree as follows: Positions promoted by New Atheists of the twenty-first century are advanced by atheist thinkers
and writers who advocate the view that superstition, religion and irrationalism should not simply be tolerated, but should be countered, criticized,
and exposed for what it represents by rational argument wherever their influence arises in government, city councils, education, politics, 
and internet forums. 

Bastard, by all means, you can continue to placate to the pseudo-christian faction, hold their hands, wipe their butts, pat them on their heads telling 
them they’re wrong, let their damaging beliefs go unanswered, not call them out, and just say “we agree to disagree,” kiss, kiss, kiss.

The time has come to NOT candy-ass the pseudo-christian around anymore, but to blatantly show them in whatever means possible, that their pagan doctrine
is damaging to any society. Check your calendar, and for the sake of society, this is the 21st century, and their primitive and damaging Bronze and
Iron Age beliefs are NOT to be tolerated anymore, period!




m

Go fuck yourself and the straw man you rode in on, asshole. If "New Atheism" is anything like you, I want no part of it.

(December 29, 2016 at 9:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 28, 2016 at 2:48 am)21stCenturyIconoclast Wrote: BrianSoddingBoru4,


PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN:  Anyone that erroneously professes to be a Christian, no matter what division of the primitive faith they’ve swallowed, 
that does not follow the entire inspired word of their god named Yahweh within their primitive Bronze and Iron Age Judeo-Christian bible. 

Other attributes of the pseudo-christian, which are many, are that they run away from disturbing and horrific passages and narratives as they turn
themselves not pretzels as they try in vain to anachronistically explain them away through their insidious pseudo-christian hermeneutics and apologetics.  

“Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5)  Every word includes the 613 laws within
the horrific Old Testament, unless the pseudo-christian wants to call their Yahweh god a LIAR!  

“And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.” (Luke 4:4) Every word of 
Yahweh includes the Old Testament that Jesus explicitly said to follow relative to his Sermon on the Mount, unless the pseudo-christian
 wants to call Jesus a LIAR! 


Subjectively, the foremost examples of a pseudo-christian within this forum, at this time, and that have been easily shut down relative to their primitive faith,
is Yahweh’s Child, ex God’s Child, Catholic Lady, and Phillip 2.    Granted, more will be forthcoming. 


GENUINE ARTICLE:  This type of Christian is a rare breed for sure.. This is because if they actually followed ALL of their primitive bible, no matter which one 
of the approximate 325 DIFFERENT versions, they would do prison time! Imagine following some of the listed commands and acceptances by their primitive god
as shown below, which are only a few of many, and the ramifications thereof!  

Christians are to KILL non-believers. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)
Christians are to stone to death women that are not virgins on their wedding night. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)
Christians are to beat their children (Proverbs.23:13-14)
Christians can kill their kids that curse them, and Jesus condones this act by not saying it was wrong   (Matthew 15: 3-4)
Christians are to love their enemy, even Osama Bin Laden  (Matthew 5:44)


Just think of the inept mind set that still follows this primitive cult in the 21st century?  



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What gives you the idea that Christians must abide by Jewish law?

Um.  Matty.

Quote: Matthew 5:17-20English Standard Version (ESV)

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Yay! New atheists are the best!

(December 30, 2016 at 10:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(December 29, 2016 at 9:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: What gives you the idea that Christians must abide by Jewish law?

Um.  Matty.

Quote: Matthew 5:17-20English Standard Version (ESV)

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Min, I was hoping the op would answer...

We get accused of cherry picking yet many athiests will pick an isolated scripture (knowing full well they haven't actually read themselves), that would have been explained had they read a little further.

It also says in Matthew:

Quote:Matthew 22:36-40

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

*emphasis mine*

The only law a Christian is under is Love.

1 John 4: 7-21

Quote:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

19 We love him, because he first loved us.

20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

*emphasis mine*
You cannot enter Heaven without perfect love, for love covers a multitude of sin. (1 Peter 4:8)

Therefore if one is perfected in love, what law does he need? For the sole purpose of the law to condemn, there is no condemnation in love, and the only way to achieve perfect love is to receive the spirit of God (Holy spirit), which is only made possible through the shed blood of Christ.

Galatians 3:24-25

Quote:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

What you and the OP are referring to is the old covenant, but did not God promise to make a new covenant?

Jeremiah 31:31-34

Quote:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

*emphasis mine*

So while it is true that Jesus did not abolish the law, he made it possible to to be free from condemnation under the law. Those that refuse to accept grace are condemned under the law, and the only thing left for them is judgement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=savCAd6RyPI

and sometimes context isn't going to help . . .