(January 23, 2017 at 3:46 pm)Jesster Wrote: Yes, I would amend his statement.

"One cannot use the Bible as a moral guide because it condones things like genocide, murder, slavery, child abuse, and so on" unless you cherry pick your way through your moral guide. But then, what use is a moral guide if you toss out the parts you don't want to follow?

This brings up the old question, "If you programmed a robot to follow all biblical laws, would you feel safe having it in your home?"

I sure wouldn't.

But Christians aren't under the law. They're under grace. so if you programmed a robot to be under grace, would you feel sage having it on your planet?

Here, Phoenix.  Just for you.

(January 24, 2017 at 7:11 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

I'm not really a proponent of abortion but it's kind of maddening to me that he would say children in this Biblical context would be better off murdered than growing up in an evil society, and that's ok, but abortion isn't ok even if children would be better off dead than growing up in poverty, etc.

Also, the thing that bugs me is that if God was going to save the world with Jesus, why would he wait so long to send Jesus, all the while commanding so many people to be slaughtered and doomed to hell? It's dumb. (Besides the fact that was already mentioned--God was sending his son to save people from himself.) Further, why would he even create people knowing that these types of atrocities, and all the other atrocities in the world, were going to happen? I would say that makes God not good. (But I guess Christians say that a moral relativist can't say God is not good.)

I know this Bible stuff is old news to you but I've never examined the Bible critically before because I was taught to accept it unquestioningly. The more I look at it the more I think it's completely absurd that people would follow it in this day and age.

(January 24, 2017 at 7:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Here, Phoenix.  Just for you.

The original ISIS gang.

You might be interested in the following:



Is God a Moral Monster? by Paul Copan

(January 24, 2017 at 7:11 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(January 25, 2017 at 6:22 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You might be interested in the following:



Is God a Moral Monster? by Paul Copan

Actually I've heard a lot about the Christian view on this subject...I'm kind of interested in the other end of the spectrum at this point.

Quote:https://infidels.org/library/modern/dona...ocity.html

God's a dick.

(January 25, 2017 at 7:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:https://infidels.org/library/modern/dona...ocity.html

God's a dick.

All of those stories are intended to show the punishments and rewards for individuals and a specific group who disobey or follow the Ten Commandments specified in Exodus chapter 34.