Does not remotely impact god's dickishness.

(January 24, 2017 at 1:31 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(January 24, 2017 at 12:12 pm)phoenix31 Wrote: I don't really see a reason to call them the "real" ten commandments. The first set got broken and now another set is made, and it's different, and that's kind of dumb.

Why do you call them the "real" commandments? Because the Israelites were commanded to destroy altars and not make covenants with other people groups, and God promised to drive out other nations, and that influenced their behaviors afterward?

*Edit* I now see that these are the only set of commandments that are actually called the Ten Commandments, so I see your point.

Thanks for the follow up.  Remember, the Commandments in Exodus chapter 20 were never written on stone tablets.  The ones in Deuteronomy chapter 5 were written on stone tablets but they are not called the Ten Commandments.  On top of that the biblical stories are not based on them.

Ever think how heavy those stone tablets would need to be?

(January 26, 2017 at 8:46 am)Firefighter01 Wrote:

(January 24, 2017 at 1:31 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Thanks for the follow up.  Remember, the Commandments in Exodus chapter 20 were never written on stone tablets.  The ones in Deuteronomy chapter 5 were written on stone tablets but they are not called the Ten Commandments.  On top of that the biblical stories are not based on them.

Ever think how heavy those stone tablets would need to be?

No, I never did. That's' interesting.

(January 26, 2017 at 8:46 am)Firefighter01 Wrote:

(January 24, 2017 at 1:31 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Thanks for the follow up.  Remember, the Commandments in Exodus chapter 20 were never written on stone tablets.  The ones in Deuteronomy chapter 5 were written on stone tablets but they are not called the Ten Commandments.  On top of that the biblical stories are not based on them.

Ever think how heavy those stone tablets would need to be?

Maybe Moses was as strong as Samson?  He could zip up and down mountains like a mountain goat.

Those tablets were supposed to have been written by God himself and Moses treated them like dirt, breaking the first set.  He then gets a new set and they vanish from sight never to be seen by anyone.  Great fish story.

(January 26, 2017 at 9:28 am)phoenix31 Wrote:

(January 26, 2017 at 8:46 am)Firefighter01 Wrote: Ever think how heavy those stone tablets would need to be?

Quote:No, I never did. That's' interesting.

600 pounds! He would have been buff, eh?

Quote:According to https://thechurchoftruth.org/the-10-commandments/ 
“The two tables of stone”. According to the Bava Batra*  the length and width of each of the Tablets was six Tefachim, and each was three Tefachim thick – respectively roughly 20 and ten inches. That’s 4000 cubic inches of stone for each tablet! Mount Sinai displays a ring complex[4] that consists of alkaline Granites intruded into diverse rock types, including volcanics. The granites range in composition from syenogranite to alkali feldspar granite. With all that considered, let’s take the middle ground – the weight of the rock in that area then is 3500 pounds per cubic yard.
Therefore, the weight of the one (of the two) rocks that Moses allegedly carried is 300 pounds (4000/46,656 * 3500). Since Moses was carrying TWO stone tablets, the total weight of Moses’ load was 600 pounds! That’s a show stopper right there. We have no indication that Moses had super strength. This is the same old goat who needed help to even hold his arms up so God’s “children” would keep on killing some people.
“Come up in the morning… the top of the mount“. Mount Sinai is over 7400 ft high! At a 4% grade, it would take 34 miles to reach an elevation of 7400 feet.  In addition, as Moses climbed higher, the the density of oxygen in the air decreases in direct proportion to increasing altitude. Moses was at least 80 (according to the bible) at this time. No one, let alone an 80 year old,  is capable of walking  34 miles up to  a 7500 foot elevation with stones weighing over 600 pounds  “in his hand”.
Now, about the descent.
Really? After 40 days without food or water? Think about that. Forty days without food or water and yet Moses is able to walk a 34 mile route down from an elevation of 7500 feet with two tables totaling 600 pounds?

(January 27, 2017 at 3:04 am)Firefighter01 Wrote:

(January 26, 2017 at 9:28 am)phoenix31 Wrote: 600 pounds! He would have been buff, eh?

Quote:According to https://thechurchoftruth.org/the-10-commandments/ 
“The two tables of stone”. According to the Bava Batra*  the length and width of each of the Tablets was six Tefachim, and each was three Tefachim thick – respectively roughly 20 and ten inches. That’s 4000 cubic inches of stone for each tablet! Mount Sinai displays a ring complex[4] that consists of alkaline Granites intruded into diverse rock types, including volcanics. The granites range in composition from syenogranite to alkali feldspar granite. With all that considered, let’s take the middle ground – the weight of the rock in that area then is 3500 pounds per cubic yard.
Therefore, the weight of the one (of the two) rocks that Moses allegedly carried is 300 pounds (4000/46,656 * 3500). Since Moses was carrying TWO stone tablets, the total weight of Moses’ load was 600 pounds! That’s a show stopper right there. We have no indication that Moses had super strength. This is the same old goat who needed help to even hold his arms up so God’s “children” would keep on killing some people.
“Come up in the morning… the top of the mount“. Mount Sinai is over 7400 ft high! At a 4% grade, it would take 34 miles to reach an elevation of 7400 feet.  In addition, as Moses climbed higher, the the density of oxygen in the air decreases in direct proportion to increasing altitude. Moses was at least 80 (according to the bible) at this time. No one, let alone an 80 year old,  is capable of walking  34 miles up to  a 7500 foot elevation with stones weighing over 600 pounds  “in his hand”.
Now, about the descent.
Really? After 40 days without food or water? Think about that. Forty days without food or water and yet Moses is able to walk a 34 mile route down from an elevation of 7500 feet with two tables totaling 600 pounds?

god altered mass and gravity and gave mo holy amphetamines.

JFC, start thinking outside the reality box.

(January 23, 2017 at 3:51 pm)phoenix31 Wrote:

(January 23, 2017 at 3:41 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Do you really need a list? The common knowledge Bible stories, the ones told to children, involve God condoning, mandating or outright committing obscenities.

I want a list of the most shocking ones. I'll probably get into a conversation about it at some point and Christians have a way of ignoring or explaining away a lot of things. I think things like genocide and animal cruelty and stoning a kid for disobedience have more of a punch.

Judges 19 is pretty brutal

(January 27, 2017 at 3:04 am)Firefighter01 Wrote:

(January 26, 2017 at 9:28 am)phoenix31 Wrote: 600 pounds! He would have been buff, eh?

Quote:According to https://thechurchoftruth.org/the-10-commandments/ 
“The two tables of stone”. According to the Bava Batra*  the length and width of each of the Tablets was six Tefachim, and each was three Tefachim thick – respectively roughly 20 and ten inches. That’s 4000 cubic inches of stone for each tablet! Mount Sinai displays a ring complex[4] that consists of alkaline Granites intruded into diverse rock types, including volcanics. The granites range in composition from syenogranite to alkali feldspar granite. With all that considered, let’s take the middle ground – the weight of the rock in that area then is 3500 pounds per cubic yard.
Therefore, the weight of the one (of the two) rocks that Moses allegedly carried is 300 pounds (4000/46,656 * 3500). Since Moses was carrying TWO stone tablets, the total weight of Moses’ load was 600 pounds! That’s a show stopper right there. We have no indication that Moses had super strength. This is the same old goat who needed help to even hold his arms up so God’s “children” would keep on killing some people.
“Come up in the morning… the top of the mount“. Mount Sinai is over 7400 ft high! At a 4% grade, it would take 34 miles to reach an elevation of 7400 feet.  In addition, as Moses climbed higher, the the density of oxygen in the air decreases in direct proportion to increasing altitude. Moses was at least 80 (according to the bible) at this time. No one, let alone an 80 year old,  is capable of walking  34 miles up to  a 7500 foot elevation with stones weighing over 600 pounds  “in his hand”.
Now, about the descent.
Really? After 40 days without food or water? Think about that. Forty days without food or water and yet Moses is able to walk a 34 mile route down from an elevation of 7500 feet with two tables totaling 600 pounds?

When theists can appeal to magic, none of that is a problem.

I think Moses did it twice.

No?


Sunday school was 50 years ago for me . . . .

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