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America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
#71
RE: America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
We definitely should.   New York and California combined account for nearly a quarter of our national economy. We've suppressed separatist movements for far....far less, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#72
RE: America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
(February 24, 2017 at 1:28 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(February 22, 2017 at 9:51 pm)Jenny A Wrote: But, if the popular vote continues to be unrepresented or grossly underrepresented ,  we might indeed have civil war.

If CA and NY try to secede...I'm not so sure anyone will try to stop them.

Boy, if you thought American finances were in trouble now, just wait until you take those two economies out.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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#73
RE: America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
Yeah, you know, the whole "rural vs city" thing, in all of it's variations and with any given archetype (say, coastal elites vs salt of the earth interiors)... seems silly.   The "rurals" do know that the cityfolk are paying for their diabetes pills....subsidizing every facet of their lives, right?  Just to be "fair and balanced"..the cityfolk understand that they are subsidizing those rurals because they refuse to or cannot afford to pay a living wage to the people who feed them...who make their very existence possible?

A simple solution presents itself. Urbanites, send more money. Necks..stop being ungrateful bitches. Urbanites....stop being ungrateful bitches...necks, demand more for your products. Ah, all the world made right.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#74
RE: America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
(February 24, 2017 at 10:21 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:Up stream it was mentioned that ~40% of Dems were gun owners, so you're mooting there.

Yeah, I'm the one who mentioned it. Moderate gun ownership among Democrats doesn't translate into gun-ownership friendly (read: 2nd Amendment absolutist) political rhetoric. I mean, 'reasonable regulation'? Clearly they're gonna come take muh guns!
Yeah. My cousins were saying that Obama would refuse to leave the White (Again!) House and would still be coming for their guns.
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#75
RE: America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
My peers were certain that the NIC would make all the good christ'en white folk slaves to The Blacks™.   Thanks Obama!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#76
RE: America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
(February 24, 2017 at 1:28 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(February 22, 2017 at 9:51 pm)Jenny A Wrote: But, if the popular vote continues to be unrepresented or grossly underrepresented ,  we might indeed have civil war.

If CA and NY try to secede...I'm not so sure anyone will try to stop them.

That there isn't a Lincoln in the bunch on your side of the political fence was pretty much a foregone conclusion.
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#77
RE: America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
We're long overdue for a revolution. A civil war we could do without. I'm a little nervous our government would side with the racists this time around.
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#78
RE: America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
(February 24, 2017 at 1:28 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(February 22, 2017 at 9:51 pm)Jenny A Wrote: But, if the popular vote continues to be unrepresented or grossly underrepresented ,  we might indeed have civil war.

If CA and NY try to secede...I'm not so sure anyone will try to stop them.

If so they would be shooting themselves in the foot. Considering that they would take 21.4% of the U.S. economy with them, and that both states pay much more in federal taxes than they receive in federal funding, it would be interesting to see how the rest of the country fared if they left. Unfortunately, as someone not living in either state I'm afraid the results would be catastrophic. Not that I think that New York and California could win a civil war. In the Civil War the North won because that is where the industrial and economic power were. In the case of a California versus the rest of the country battle it's not so clear. California's production is high tech, but not very militarily based. New York is about financing not production. But regardless of outcome the defection of either state would kill the U.S. economy.
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#79
America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
(February 24, 2017 at 4:32 pm)Shell B Wrote: We're long overdue for a revolution. A civil war we could do without. I'm a little nervous our government would side with the racists this time around.


Why does everything have to do with race? I have news for you. Most people are not racist.
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#80
RE: America Divided: Second Civil War Coming?
(February 24, 2017 at 7:38 pm)KUSA Wrote:
(February 24, 2017 at 4:32 pm)Shell B Wrote: We're long overdue for a revolution. A civil war we could do without. I'm a little nervous our government would side with the racists this time around.


Why does everything have to do with race? I have news for you. Most people are not racist.

Wrong.  Most people are not above being racist, or at least condoning racism, when it can be convincingly represented to them that there is benefit to them personally in being racist or condoning racism.
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