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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 3:52 pm
(March 14, 2017 at 11:37 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: While I agree that Marxism isn't identical to atheism, Marxism is atheistic. Ayn Rand's libertarianism would be a good example of an atheistic ideology at the opposite end of the spectrum. Nevertheless I would call them kissing-cousins of atheism.
Marxism may be atheistic, but atheism has nothing to do with Marxism.
And objectivism has nothing to do with atheism. Ayn Rand just happened to be an atheist.
If those are kissing cousins, you might as well call Islam and Christianity fucking cousins.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 4:01 pm
You can have all sorts of ideologies in addition to being an atheist. I think everyone naturally forms their own ideology, so I'd find it odd for someone to not have one. I just don't see why anyone should hold a specific ideology simply because they don't believe in a god, though. I hold my ideologies because of what I believe, but never because of what I don't believe.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 4:32 pm
(March 14, 2017 at 1:13 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: No ideology per se, but we do all eat Christian babies.
You can really taste the original sin.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 4:36 pm
Anyone think being in a coma is a kissing cousin to being a true believer? Funny how facile these sorts of associations come for positions one doesn't hold themselves.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 7:07 pm
(March 14, 2017 at 11:37 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: While I agree that Marxism isn't identical to atheism, Marxism is atheistic. Ayn Rand's libertarianism would be a good example of an atheistic ideology at the opposite end of the spectrum. Nevertheless I would call them kissing-cousins of atheism.
No, Marxism is non-theistic, in the sense that religion has nothing to do with it. You can be a Christian Marxist quite easily.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 7:39 pm
(March 14, 2017 at 7:07 pm)Cephus Wrote: (March 14, 2017 at 11:37 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: While I agree that Marxism isn't identical to atheism, Marxism is atheistic. Ayn Rand's libertarianism would be a good example of an atheistic ideology at the opposite end of the spectrum. Nevertheless I would call them kissing-cousins of atheism.
No, Marxism is non-theistic, in the sense that religion has nothing to do with it. You can be a Christian Marxist quite easily.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 8:30 pm
(March 14, 2017 at 9:34 am)Lebneni Murtad Wrote: I don't like it when people associate atheism with a certain ideology.
Like you need to be an atheist + a feminist or + a Marxist.
To each of their own, but atheism is the lack of belief in god, not making it like a cult or religion.
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I agree, but you can't be an atheist and hold to YEC.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 8:39 pm
(March 14, 2017 at 8:30 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (March 14, 2017 at 9:34 am)Lebneni Murtad Wrote: I don't like it when people associate atheism with a certain ideology.
Like you need to be an atheist + a feminist or + a Marxist.
To each of their own, but atheism is the lack of belief in god, not making it like a cult or religion.
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I agree, but you can't be an atheist and hold to YEC.
Heh. You might be able to. The Raelians believe in intelligent design. Atheists can be idiots, too.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 9:23 pm
(March 14, 2017 at 4:32 pm)Nonpareil Wrote: (March 14, 2017 at 1:13 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: No ideology per se, but we do all eat Christian babies.
You can really taste the original sin.
Best dining tip EVER:
eating a baby while the tearful parents are on TV begging for a safe return !!!!!
It don't get any better than that, damn, that is some mighty fine eatin'.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 9:51 pm
(March 14, 2017 at 8:39 pm)Jesster Wrote: (March 14, 2017 at 8:30 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I agree, but you can't be an atheist and hold to YEC.
Heh. You might be able to. The Raelians believe in intelligent design. Atheists can be idiots, too.
Or, for that matter, Scientologists!
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