Given the scriptures contain outright contradictions the figure for cherrypickers stands at 100%

(March 23, 2017 at 7:18 pm)Mr Greene Wrote: Given the scriptures contain outright contradictions the figure for cherrypickers stands at 100%

To be fair, there is no such thing as a consistent religion by any label. Like I said in the prior post every religion, bar none, has sub sects that do not agree on the interpretations of the writings or which holy person/sect to follow. 

Even with an upstart religion which all start out as. That small group may agree at first, but the larger it grows it creates competition which leads to splinter sects in the future.

All Christians cherry pick from the bible because everything in it directly conflicts with something else in it.

But as there is no true reading of it, however people interpret it is right, to a certain value of right.

(March 23, 2017 at 1:46 am)vorlon13 Wrote: In my lifetime Mark 10:11 went from 'damn right!' to optional to positively old fashioned, to freely ignored.

No shit, Princess Margaret (Queen Elizabeth's sister) could not marry her beloved Captain Townsend (decorated war hero, BTW) since he was married and divorced, when they were dating in the early 60s because in those days, Christian marriage was deemed to be indissoluble.

When's the last time (outside of me, here) have any of you heard anyone in public say anything like 'Christian marriage is indissoluble' ??

Anyone getting worked up about Jesus and His silly ideas about how He thinks marriage otta be conducted could very well be institutionalized, and they could very well find themselves being institutionalized by folks claiming vigorously they are, in fact, Christians.


How about that ding dong clerk in Kentucky, on a repeat marriage of her own, having a hissy fit about gay marriage licenses, and she's claiming 'Sincerely held BELIEFS" as her reason to deny.

Sincerely held beliefs?!?!?!  Jesus fucking Christ, what kind of sincerely held religious beliefs are there left for her to have after shit canning a Christian marriage of her very own ?

When we look at scripture like Mark 10/divorce we must also look to see if that teacher/chirst said anything else on the subject. as it turns out this event seems to be outlined in mat 19 as well. The record is about the same but with the addition of marital unfaithfulness. or in some translations 'adultery.'

This does not take away anything Jesus said but adds to it. in that being unfaith to one marriage/vows is a legit reason to be divorced and remarry.

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(March 23, 2017 at 2:35 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: The current bible itself has been cherry picked, with uncomfortable bits and stories being discarded over time. The myth and characters are themselves cherry-picked from other religions and older myths. So yeh, christians cherry-pick, and so does christianity.

That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

(March 30, 2017 at 10:07 am)Drich Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 1:46 am)vorlon13 Wrote: In my lifetime Mark 10:11 went from 'damn right!' to optional to positively old fashioned, to freely ignored.

No shit, Princess Margaret (Queen Elizabeth's sister) could not marry her beloved Captain Townsend (decorated war hero, BTW) since he was married and divorced, when they were dating in the early 60s because in those days, Christian marriage was deemed to be indissoluble.

When's the last time (outside of me, here) have any of you heard anyone in public say anything like 'Christian marriage is indissoluble' ??

Anyone getting worked up about Jesus and His silly ideas about how He thinks marriage otta be conducted could very well be institutionalized, and they could very well find themselves being institutionalized by folks claiming vigorously they are, in fact, Christians.


How about that ding dong clerk in Kentucky, on a repeat marriage of her own, having a hissy fit about gay marriage licenses, and she's claiming 'Sincerely held BELIEFS" as her reason to deny.

Sincerely held beliefs?!?!?!  Jesus fucking Christ, what kind of sincerely held religious beliefs are there left for her to have after shit canning a Christian marriage of her very own ?

When we look at scripture like Mark 10/divorce we must also look to see if that teacher/chirst said anything else on the subject. as it turns out this event seems to be outlined in mat 19 as well. The record is about the same but with the addition of marital unfaithfulness. or in some translations 'adultery.'

This does not take away anything Jesus said but adds to it. in that being unfaith to one marriage/vows is a legit reason to be divorced and remarry.

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(March 23, 2017 at 2:35 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: The current bible itself has been cherry picked, with uncomfortable bits and stories being discarded over time. The myth and characters are themselves cherry-picked from other religions and older myths. So yeh, christians cherry-pick, and so does christianity.

That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

Every religion quotes their holy writings and the characters in those holy writings. That is STILL circular reasoning and confirmation bias. You quoted your bible so what? Muslims quote the Koran, Jews quote the Torah and Talmud, and OT, Buddhists quote Buddha, and Hindus quote the Bhagavad Gita and Vedas. So what, get in line take a number.

(March 30, 2017 at 10:07 am)Drich Wrote:

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(March 23, 2017 at 2:35 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: The current bible itself has been cherry picked, with uncomfortable bits and stories being discarded over time. The myth and characters are themselves cherry-picked from other religions and older myths. So yeh, christians cherry-pick, and so does christianity.

That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

And, of course, you are the arbiter of what is "legit".

As for those feeling Jesus doesn't have 'sufficient backup' for His admonition on divorce/remarriage to really be something He was serious about, I note Malachi records God (His Father for our posters and visitors from Rio Linda) stating He HATES divorce. Significantly, that admonition is in the Old Testament. One might conclude an Eternal and Unchanging God might just have inspired His Holy scriptures to read precisely what He wants on this occasion, at least.

I would advise EXTREME caution for 'sincere' believers who nevertheless feel they need a divorce and/or a subsequent remarriage. I'd also counsel profound suspicion of any (supposedly) Christian denomination/schism that is any way 'soft' on divorce. And especially the ones that treat remarriage as a sacrament.

As for a subsequent (LOL, or prior!) proclamation of belief in the death and resurrection of Christ from a divorce whore, I'd take that with copious skepticism. That is just the sort of thing one would expect to hear from unsaved disciples of Satan.

(March 30, 2017 at 10:41 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(March 30, 2017 at 10:07 am)Drich Wrote:

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That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

And, of course, you are the arbiter of what is "legit".

Yep, most of our 7 billion humans have a religion and all of them argue over which one is the right one. But lucky us Drich is the hero of all 7 billion of us.