The Republicunts have managed to devise a "health care" bill which does everything except provide health care.

Does it suck enough for the conservatards while still giving the moderates the illusion of "cover?"  That's the big question.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/20/upsho...c=rss&_r=0

Quote:In the days before Obamacare, applying for health insurance meant filling out dozens of pages of forms and submitting medical records. It was almost impossible to compare prices. Your premium might be set higher for a large number of reasons, including if your child was overweight. This could be the future in some states under the latest Republican proposal to overhaul the health law.
The proposal, offered by leaders of libertarian and centrist groups within the House Republican caucus, would allow states to waive key insurance rules imposed by the Affordable Care Act if they believe the changes could lower premiums or advance other state goals. The proposal retains the health law’s promise that people with pre-existing health conditions can still buy insurance. But the protection would be largely technical.
States could waive a closely related rule that requires insurers to charge the same prices to healthy and sick customers of the same age. States could also exempt insurers from offering the “essential health benefits” currently required. To compensate, states would have to set up special insurance markets for sick customers called high risk pools.

The republicunt code word is "access."  If you are rich enough to afford it you can get it.  If not, please go fucking die somewhere.

(April 20, 2017 at 9:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The Republicunts have managed to devise a "health care" bill which does everything except provide health care.

Does it suck enough for the conservatards while still giving the moderates the illusion of "cover?"  That's the big question.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/20/upsho...c=rss&_r=0

Quote:In the days before Obamacare, applying for health insurance meant filling out dozens of pages of forms and submitting medical records. It was almost impossible to compare prices. Your premium might be set higher for a large number of reasons, including if your child was overweight. This could be the future in some states under the latest Republican proposal to overhaul the health law.
The proposal, offered by leaders of libertarian and centrist groups within the House Republican caucus, would allow states to waive key insurance rules imposed by the Affordable Care Act if they believe the changes could lower premiums or advance other state goals. The proposal retains the health law’s promise that people with pre-existing health conditions can still buy insurance. But the protection would be largely technical.
States could waive a closely related rule that requires insurers to charge the same prices to healthy and sick customers of the same age. States could also exempt insurers from offering the “essential health benefits” currently required. To compensate, states would have to set up special insurance markets for sick customers called high risk pools.

The republicunt code word is "access."  If you are rich enough to afford it you can get it.  If not, please go fucking die somewhere.

It's simple republicans want you to die quickly. 
I mean they are throwing most of their voter base under the god damn bus and with them dying what voter base will they have to keep voting for them.

Please.  To keep the base in line all they have to do is wave the flag and say "we hate minorities."

They take the base for granted.  They work for the super rich.

(April 20, 2017 at 10:00 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Please.  To keep the base in line all they have to do is wave the flag and say "we hate minorities."

They take the base for granted.  They work for the super rich.

meanwhile Bernie and other progressives can go to a deep red state and make people realize they are getting fucked over.

My god it's amazing this party has a majority, even with gerrymandering.

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(April 20, 2017 at 11:03 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: My god it's amazing this party has a majority, even with gerrymandering.

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The democratic party destroyed themselves they republicans only won because well lets be honest.
They pushed the whole everything is fine vote for me and in reality nothing is fine at all. 
Also most people are  skeptical of hard work if you have to work 2 to 3 jobs to support yourself something is wrong.

True. I wish we had more than 2 parties with a legit shot at having any power.

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Enabling citizens to get low-cost/high-service health care isn't all that difficult. Fuxxake, if NZ and Lichtenstein can do it, how hard can it be?

Boru

(April 21, 2017 at 5:53 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Enabling citizens to get low-cost/high-service health care isn't all that difficult. Fuxxake, if NZ and Lichtenstein can do it, how hard can it be?

Boru

Not that hard at all in reality the problem is most of the people in power are bought out sacks of human trash who don't give 2 god damn fucks about anyone.
The amount of money those people get is the reason why they through such a bitch fit if they don't get their way. We don't have single payer and the reason why 
medicare won't cover everyone is simple. Democrats pushed a bill for affordable healthcare which itself is a republican bill that forces people into buying cheaper healthcare
at the same time republicans want to get rid of it. So the answer here is why don't we get single  payer or cheaper healthcare is simple lobbyists from insurance companies prevent that
they sell us "options" which is bullshit if you think about it. Everyone is entitled to healthcare unless they aren't a you know they aren't a legal US citizen but even still were arguing 
while people are dying and were getting sold again options. Id agree with options if our system of capitalism was working and insurance was cheap and affordable but it isn't.
so the alternative which we have to force them to agree too kicking and screaming is a MEDICARE FOR ALL SYSTEM. If by any chance the won't agree with the citizens of the united states our only option is to get rid of said people standing the way by PRIMARYING them out of power. 2018 is the year where a lot of people are not going to be in power anymore because people actually see the aren't looking out for their best interests.

(April 21, 2017 at 5:53 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Enabling citizens to get low-cost/high-service health care isn't all that difficult. Fuxxake, if NZ and Lichtenstein can do it, how hard can it be?

Boru

That's commie talk.....