(April 27, 2017 at 7:35 am)Jeanne Wrote: Again, the vastly overwhelming majority of gun owners do not use the gun to commit crimes or shoot their family members, either by accident or on purpose.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...eople-die/

(April 27, 2017 at 7:22 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(April 27, 2017 at 7:07 am)mh.brewer Wrote: This was a general comment and not directed at you. Go and change your diaper now.

And I'll say it again, I'm OK with getting rid of hand guns. As far as I'm concerned, they serve little useful purpose except to kill people.

The knives comment was a joke, but apparently the humor impaired get to go off on shit rants. 

Grow up you chronic victim.

Won't happen. The only pragmatic thing EVERYONE should want, is to insure the gun shops and gun makers do a better job of preventing ANYONE, even without a record, but say with mental illness, domestic problems, work place problems and religious grudges, because those people can have no record at time of buy or they can borrow or steel it from family or neighbor. We don't vet well enough, but no, it is bullshit to say you an rid the entire nation of handguns.

I am for banning anything that is high capacity and high speed handgun or riffle. 

I am no victim, but I am sick of seeing this shit in the news, even out here in the middle of nowhere and have the assholes on the right think gun violence is strictly a black urban vs white cop issue. It is a public safety issue in every fucking county in both blue and red states, and gun violence is affecting everyone of both parties in both the middle class and poor. It should not be party issue but only one Party is stuck in the fucking wild west days and only one lobby is holding the entire nation hostage. The GOP and NRA wont even fucking admit that most Americans INCLUDING most gun owners want a universal background check. 

And I could care less if you think I misunderstood you. Again, NEVER claimed to be a victim. But Newtown, San Bernadino, Va Tech, Pulse Orlando. And the worst part is even long before Columbine, back in 1984 in San Ysidro a mentally ill man named James Huberty murdered 21 people in a McDonalds. The sad part is that this is also NOT the majority of gun injury and death. Most gun injury and death is still in the home. 

We DO as the OP rightfully states, have a gun obsession and we need to change our attitudes otherwise we will continue to have this, both in the home and mass shootings.

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White woman murdered by intruder right here in the middle of nowhere, nice middle class neighborhood too. Lucky her the murder had a gun. Happened out here in the middle of nowhere. Most likely a domestic dispute, boyfriend, jilted lover or husband.

Two big things that would fix this real quick, allow the shops and factories to be sued, not to put them out of business, but to force them to be careful as to whom they sell them to. Gun insurance. Just like car insurance. It pays the medical bills, even in cases of accident or theft.

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First bold: How do you propose implementation and what would the guidelines be? Where do you think the line should be drawn on let's say work place problems? How do you think these things should be investigated?

Second bold: High speed what? I don't think many rational gun owners have a problem with getting rid of high capacity mags. 

Third bold: I'm not surprised that you don't consider yourself a victim. As far as I'm concerned you have a victim mentality and act like a victim. 

Fourth bold: In other threads I've advocated the same and more. 

Fifth bold: What type of gun was she murdered with, a hand gun?

The ardent gunners have decided that a "if we can't fix everything immediately there's no reason to try to fix anything" policy is just fine. It's also called "stonewalling".

Given that the word "Stonewall" means something special to the LGBT people I can't help but chuckle.

(April 27, 2017 at 12:18 am)It_Was_me Wrote: Couldn't the same logic be applied to the drug war?

It could, but that would be a mistake Gun control crowd. The war on drugs has been an abysmal failure.

I just got two tax stamps back from the ATF last week and finished putting these together last night. The top one is a 5.56. It has a Seekins upper and lower, 12" Seekins MCSR hand guard, SD tactical brake (for the coming one of these days SD tactical Form 1 titanium suppressor) Seekins adjustable gas block, 14.5" FN made M249 spec barrel, Rubber City M16 spec bolt carrier and bolt, BCM charging handle, pistol grip, buffer tube and stock, Giessele SD-C trigger and twisted wire buffer spring, Mepro M-21 optic and Magpul Pro off set BUIS.

The stand alone upper goes on lower number 1. Aero upper, same MCSR hand guard, Noveske 8.5" 300 Blackout barrel with the SD Tactical brake (for the other coming one of these days SD tactical Form 1 titanium suppressor), EOTech 512 optic and MI BUIS.

The bottom one is an 11.5" budget (except for the Geissele SSA trigger and Aimpoint H-1 optic) build I did for Mama so she could have something light. It's just a tad over 6 lbs with the optic and BUIS. One of these days I may swap out the barrel for something with a light weight profile. That might shave off another .5 lbs.

There is about $3500 laying on that table. I don't think they are sexy. I do appreciate them for the precision machines they are and take some amount of pride in the work I did selecting the parts, assembling them and once I get them to the range tuning them to run.



I don't leave them or any of my other guns laying around the house loaded or unloaded. Every one of them is unloaded and locked in safe. While I don't support bans on any kind of small arms or accessories there are a host of more restrictive gun regulations I would support. For example I think flagging people on the no fly list in the NICS database is an extraordinarily good idea. Just not without a process for someone with such a flag to appeal the decision to put them there. Which by the way was the stated reason the legislation to add flags for people on the no fly list couldn't get passed the last time it was proposed. The government didn't want to have to defend their reason for flagging someone to begin with.

If your guns are locked and unloaded how would they be used for home defense? I ask because that's the most common reply as to why people have handguns at home.

(April 27, 2017 at 7:45 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(April 27, 2017 at 7:35 am)Jeanne Wrote: Again, the vastly overwhelming majority of gun owners do not use the gun to commit crimes or shoot their family members, either by accident or on purpose.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...eople-die/

That says nothing about the sentence I wrote.

(April 27, 2017 at 7:59 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: If your guns are locked and unloaded how would they be used for home defense? I ask because that's the most common reply as to why people have handguns at home.

I live in a condo, Zilla. There are two pieces of sheet rock and some fiberglass insulation between me and my neighbors on either side. I have no intention of using any of my guns for self defense at home because I can't guarantee I wouldn't injure or kill one of my neighbors.

(April 27, 2017 at 8:01 am)Jeanne Wrote:

(April 27, 2017 at 7:45 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...eople-die/

That says nothing about the sentence I wrote.

Nope, of course not. 

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(April 27, 2017 at 8:06 am)popeyespappy Wrote:

(April 27, 2017 at 7:59 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: If your guns are locked and unloaded how would they be used for home defense? I ask because that's the most common reply as to why people have handguns at home.

I live in a condo, Zilla. There are two pieces of sheet rock and some fiberglass insulation between me and my neighbors on either side. I have no intention of using any of my guns for self defense at home because I can't guarantee I wouldn't injure or kill one of my neighbors.

I did say "most common reply". It's a relief that you don't want to shoot your neighbors.

Because a lot of Americans are sexually repressed ammosexuals. They don't give a fuck that children get killed every day by guns. All they care is about getting their erection, and then their climax when the bullets come out of that chamber.

I'm just glad my children have common sense, and don't have guns in their homes, and don't let their children go to people's houses if they own guns and don't lock them away.

Hey Popeye's Pappy, if you're having any issues with getting those bullets out of the chamber there's a pill for that now. =)