(May 14, 2017 at 11:16 am)Little Rik Wrote: The matter lie in a very deep stage of slumber.
There is no sign of any consciousness activity even if a latent or dormant consciousness is there
that is why the matter come last.
The fact that plants sprung up from the matter (soil) is a clear signal that from the slumber a small
awake take place and as soon as the consciousness awake more and more, plants are no longer able to
contain this consciousness and will need a better medium to express herself such as an animal body.
From here as the consciousness awake even more it will need a better medium and a human body is the
answer.
But the journey continue even more because the consciousness is not yet satisfied.
She is not happy with limitations of any kind and the only way to satisfy her lie in the unlimited which
means to go back in the mind where this consciousness originally came from.

That's a fascinating story but it has nothing to do with the questions you were asked.

(May 14, 2017 at 11:16 am)Little Rik Wrote: To fully understand how the system works you have to understand the cycle of creation.
From 100% consciousness to less and less consciousness into space, air, energy-light, water and matter.
So in the matter the consciousness is latent or dormant and therefore lie at the very bottom.

To understand the questions you didn't answer you would actually have to read them. You're just spewing shit that has no relation to the questions asked. You're nothing but a deluded twat, proselytizing Hindu mysticism. You aren't having a conversation here, you're just delivering a bunch of garbage about your beliefs. You're nothing but a salesman, here to sell your stupid junk. Well fuck you.

Your post has been reported as spam.

Little Rik, seriously, people don't say you make little sense or try to make it out like you sound crazy to win an argument. You really don't make much sense at all. Maybe if you clarified your ideas in plain English, people would pick up what you're laying down.

I do think Little Rik is basically spam on AF.

I've made it to the end.



No doubt  it's been suggested before, but is Rik a very tenacious poe?

(May 14, 2017 at 12:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(May 14, 2017 at 11:16 am)Little Rik Wrote: The matter lie in a very deep stage of slumber.
There is no sign of any consciousness activity even if a latent or dormant consciousness is there
that is why the matter come last.
The fact that plants sprung up from the matter (soil) is a clear signal that from the slumber a small
awake take place and as soon as the consciousness awake more and more, plants are no longer able to
contain this consciousness and will need a better medium to express herself such as an animal body.
From here as the consciousness awake even more it will need a better medium and a human body is the
answer.
But the journey continue even more because the consciousness is not yet satisfied.
She is not happy with limitations of any kind and the only way to satisfy her lie in the unlimited which
means to go back in the mind where this consciousness originally came from.

That's a fascinating story but it has nothing to do with the questions you were asked.

You are still miles and miles away from understanding how the whole system works.
You really are in the slumber.
The evidence is there.
You only need to open your eyes and see how the nature works but of course if you think that a plant
will never evolve to be an animal and an animal to become a human and a human to merge in the ocean of cosmic consciousness then is all futile.
You remind me of my Christian mum that was saying that God create the animals so they can be food for us humans.
No consideration for high form of consciousness altogether.
I am sure that in her next life she will learn a lot but you will keep your demented ideas for a lot longer.
You are hopeless Yog.  

(May 14, 2017 at 11:16 am)Little Rik Wrote: To fully understand how the system works you have to understand the cycle of creation.
From 100% consciousness to less and less consciousness into space, air, energy-light, water and matter.
So in the matter the consciousness is latent or dormant and therefore lie at the very bottom.

Quote:To understand the questions you didn't answer you would actually have to read them.  You're just spewing shit that has no relation to the questions asked.   You're nothing but a deluded twat, proselytizing Hindu mysticism.   You aren't having a conversation here, you're just delivering a bunch of garbage about your beliefs.  You're nothing but a salesman, here to sell your stupid junk.  Well fuck you.

You are sick women.  
Let us see some of your demented points.
You say......... Existence comes in two forms, energy and matter...............
That is hilarious Yog.
You are saying that you can put energy and matter somewhere where there is no space and no air
without also mentioning the mind.
You should have become an assistance and aid of Doctor Moreau in his experiments to create some sort of zombie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island...tor_Moreau


And then you say............The universe is sequenced like the parts of a computer?  So that means the universe has a keyboard and a mouse and a monitor.  WRONG.

You stupid cluck.  Even if I were to accept that the universe was created in a certain sequence, it wouldn't matter because the order of the creation of the universe has no specific meaning.  It's just useless information.  When they build a car, they first construct a chassis, then an engine, then the interior, then the body.  That these parts are assembled in that order tells you nothing special about the parts or about the whole.


Idiot.  

Of course it matter the way the universe was created.
Where can you put air, energy, water and matter if you don't have a space to put them in?
And how can the matter be there if there is no water, no energy and no air?
Matter is compose of these elements as well that is why these elements come first.
There got to be a progression in the way the elements are created.
If I remember from my years as a church goer (forced to go to church by my Christian parents)
the Genesis say that God created the universe in 6 or 7 days.
From this I understand that these few days relate to the different stages of creation such as the mind that create space, air, energy-light, water and matter.

And here you write..........That the glands are located in space in a particular way tells you nothing about the function any such ordering might have.  In this case, the "ordering" is a bunch of whacky bullshit from Hindu metapysics having to do with Chakras and kundalini, neither of which are known to exist.  You might just as well have said the glands are located in a specific order side-to-side for all that their location matters.  It doesn't.

It is obvious that by not practicing yoga you wouldn't know how the energy centers are controlling
specific parts of our body-mind.
It is like expecting that a pumpkin farmer know how to fly a plane. (no offence for the farmer)
I understand Yog.  


And you go again with more garbage..........I "should have" done no such thing, because there was no reason for doing such a thing.  All you've given me is a bunch of metaphysical bull about the order of the glands in the human body.  It's pure assertion without reason.  There's no reason the glands being located where they are has anything to do with any so-called sequence of creation of the universe (for which you have no evidence).

There got to be a sequence as I already explain above.  


And again.........That one thing is "like" another thing in several particulars, even if true, does not indicate that the two are alike in all ways.  Even if the universe were in some way similar to the body, it would not show that it is like the body in ALL ways.  Do you have any evidence that the universe has a mind?  No you don't.  What you have is an ANALOGY, and an analogy isn't evidence.  A car and a tricycle both have wheels, a seat, and a steering column.  That does not mean that a tricycle also has an engine like a car.  That would require showing actual evidence of the engine.  So the claim that the universe has a mind is unsupported.


Idiot.  

A tricycle doesn't have an engine but if you want the tricycle to go you need a driver as in the car.
Failed analogy Yog.  


And again..........You keep coming back to this (primarily because you're a disordered twat).  First of all, the five 'elements' aren't arranged in the universe in the same way that the glands are arranged in the body.  (Duh.)  What you presumably mean is that the 'elements' of the universe are arranged in a TEMPORAL ORDER that is the same as the PHYSICAL ORDER of the glands in the body (assuming they are arranged in reverse of the order of development of kundalini, which relates to a completely different concept of Chakra).   First question to ask is, "Why?"  Why should an arbitrarily chosen PHYSICAL ORDER be mapped to an unproven TEMPORAL ORDER?  Why?

Your basic logic in all of this has been that if two things are 'alike' in some ways, then they are 'alike' in all ways.  This is faulty logic and makes your entire parade of 'evidence' nothing but a bunch of woo infected twaddle.


You should try to run a business Yog to realize how wrong you are.
Have you ever seen a business owner go away and let his business out of control with none taking care
of the business?
There is no question that the business will collapse.
The same would happen in the universe without a controlling mind.
You are correct in saying that I have no evidence but logic is on my side.
On your side you only have a system that expect that a body be able to exist without a mind.
Zombies all over yog.  

Quote:Your post has been reported as spam.

I don't know how they say in your village.
Here they say......go to buggery.  

Succubus, yeah, Poe-age is definitely a possibility here. I'd certainly wager that the difficulty with English is parody-level.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:05 am)Shell B Wrote: Succubus, yeah, Poe-age is definitely a possibility here. I'd certainly wager that the difficulty with English is parody-level.

I hope so. Otherwise, we'd have to drown him in his own drool.

Not reading anything else....

The "Fuck all polls" option seems to be missing.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:29 am)Nymphadora Wrote: The "Fuck all polls" option seems to be missing.

It's there, as is Rik's god.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: You are sick women.  
Let us see some of your demented points.
You say......... Existence comes in two forms, energy and matter...............
That is hilarious Yog.
You are saying that you can put energy and matter somewhere where there is no space and no air

No, that's not what I'm saying, Mr. Quote-Miner.  If you'd respond to points in context you wouldn't have such silliness.  But then if you actually responded to points in context, you would have no point.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: And then you say............The universe is sequenced like the parts of a computer?  So that means the universe has a keyboard and a mouse and a monitor.  WRONG.

You stupid cluck.  Even if I were to accept that the universe was created in a certain sequence, it wouldn't matter because the order of the creation of the universe has no specific meaning.  It's just useless information.  When they build a car, they first construct a chassis, then an engine, then the interior, then the body.  That these parts are assembled in that order tells you nothing special about the parts or about the whole.


Idiot.  

Of course it matter the way the universe was created.
Where can you put air, energy, water and matter if you don't have a space to put them in?
And how can the matter be there if there is no water, no energy and no air?
Matter is compose of these elements as well that is why these elements come first.

Matter is not composed of water, energy, and air.  That's just bollocks.  

(May 15, 2017 at 11:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: And here you write..........That the glands are located in space in a particular way tells you nothing about the function any such ordering might have.  In this case, the "ordering" is a bunch of whacky bullshit from Hindu metapysics having to do with Chakras and kundalini, neither of which are known to exist.  You might just as well have said the glands are located in a specific order side-to-side for all that their location matters.  It doesn't.

It is obvious that by not practicing yoga you wouldn't know how the energy centers are controlling
specific parts of our body-mind.

And it's obvious that by practicing yoga you know fuckall.  That's always the way with you religious types:  "I had a personal experience of God."  Your personal experience with yoga doesn't tell you anything about any mysterious "energy centers" controlling parts of the body.  That's just dogma that you read or heard somewhere.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is like expecting that a pumpkin farmer know how to fly a plane. (no offence for the farmer)

If yoga were a form of expertise it would be, but since it's not, it's not a valid analogy.   Yoga imparts absolutely zero knowledge.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: And you go again with more garbage..........I "should have" done no such thing, because there was no reason for doing such a thing.  All you've given me is a bunch of metaphysical bull about the order of the glands in the human body.  It's pure assertion without reason.  There's no reason the glands being located where they are has anything to do with any so-called sequence of creation of the universe (for which you have no evidence).

There got to be a sequence as I already explain above.  

You don't even understand the question.  But I'll ask it again later.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: And again.........That one thing is "like" another thing in several particulars, even if true, does not indicate that the two are alike in all ways.  Even if the universe were in some way similar to the body, it would not show that it is like the body in ALL ways.  Do you have any evidence that the universe has a mind?  No you don't.  What you have is an ANALOGY, and an analogy isn't evidence.  A car and a tricycle both have wheels, a seat, and a steering column.  That does not mean that a tricycle also has an engine like a car.  That would require showing actual evidence of the engine.  So the claim that the universe has a mind is unsupported.


Idiot.  

A tricycle doesn't have an engine but if you want the tricycle to go you need a driver as in the car.
Failed analogy Yog.  

It's not a failed analogy. The point that the tricycle/car analogy fails IS the point. You can't use analogies to prove things for the reason given. You need to work on your English because you didn't understand that paragraph at all.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: And again..........You keep coming back to this (primarily because you're a disordered twat).  First of all, the five 'elements' aren't arranged in the universe in the same way that the glands are arranged in the body.  (Duh.)  What you presumably mean is that the 'elements' of the universe are arranged in a TEMPORAL ORDER that is the same as the PHYSICAL ORDER of the glands in the body (assuming they are arranged in reverse of the order of development of kundalini, which relates to a completely different concept of Chakra).   First question to ask is, "Why?"  Why should an arbitrarily chosen PHYSICAL ORDER be mapped to an unproven TEMPORAL ORDER?  Why?

Your basic logic in all of this has been that if two things are 'alike' in some ways, then they are 'alike' in all ways.  This is faulty logic and makes your entire parade of 'evidence' nothing but a bunch of woo infected twaddle.


You should try to run a business Yog to realize how wrong you are.
Have you ever seen a business owner go away and let his business out of control with none taking care
of the business?
There is no question that the business will collapse.
The same would happen in the universe without a controlling mind.

In what ways are the universe and a business alike?  They aren't.  So even as an analogy, your argument fails.  Again, ANALOGIES AREN'T EVIDENCE.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: You are correct in saying that I have no evidence but logic is on my side.

Your 'logic' is nothing but religious dogma and bogus analogies.  It's easy for made-up things to all be consistent with each other, because there's no constraint upon them.  When you actually have to show real things, like the energy supposedly radiating from the Chakras, that's when the inconsistency shows itself.  Your beliefs are inconsistent with what we know about the beginning of the universe, about the human body, about 'Chakras', and about matter, energy, and space.  So, no, 'logic' is not on your side.  It's only on your side if you stay within your playhouse version of reality which bears no resemblance to the real world.  When it's exposed to the real world, the world of evidence, then it fails.

Quote:You keep coming back to this (primarily because you're a disordered twat).  First of all, the five 'elements' aren't arranged in the universe in the same way that the glands are arranged in the body.  (Duh.)  What you presumably mean is that the 'elements' of the universe are arranged in a TEMPORAL ORDER that is the same as the PHYSICAL ORDER of the glands in the body (assuming they are arranged in reverse of the order of development of kundalini, which relates to a completely different concept of Chakra).  

First question to ask is, "Why?"  Why should an arbitrarily chosen PHYSICAL ORDER be mapped to an unproven TEMPORAL ORDER?  Why?

Show me your 'logic' and answer that question.

(May 15, 2017 at 11:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: On your side you only have a system that expect that a body be able to exist without a mind.
Zombies all over yog.  

That's just more bullshit based upon your false analogy between the universe and the body.