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Ramadan has come.
#31
RE: Ramadan has come.
(May 28, 2017 at 3:02 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: chimp3

Thank you; chimp3. 

LastPoet

Fasting also includes preventing harmful acts like cussing and inflicting physical harm, so I guess I'll stick to praising God and trying to understand him more. 
Thank you; LastPoet.

Aroura

Wishing you the same, hoping you feel the month's aura.
Thank you; Aroura.

J A C K

I will; J ^_^
Thank you. 

Alex K

Personally; I think feeding poor people is the solution in that case:

Quote:Sura 2, Page 28, The Quran:
( 184 )   [Fasting for] a limited number of days. So whoever among you is ill or on a journey [during them] - then an equal number of days [are to be made up]. And upon those who are able [to fast, but with hardship] - a ransom [as substitute] of feeding a poor person [each day]. And whoever volunteers excess - it is better for him. But to fast is best for you, if you only knew.

Minimalist

Totally.

mh.brewer

Hunger and thirst make it easy to understand charity and feeding others, it helps with understanding why these exist, and the nature of a God that orders his followers to carry out such things.

Then when one pray and he/she is hungry and thirsty, they will recall what every verse is all about. It's different than having a full belly and reading about the feeding of poor people. And when the time of eating comes; it will be very appreciated; God create food.

Jesster

Thank you; Jesster.

Aoi Magi

It has health risks but also benefits, but I can't understand why you're strictly against it. After all, there's the charity work instead of the fasting in cases of inability.
Thank you; Magi.

paulablo

I didn't hear about the causing of disabilities due to fasting. That's just beyond painful.
Pregnancy means that a mother has two souls to care about; not just one. If fasting hurts the fetus, causing disabilities to the unborn child, then she should never fast during pregnancy.

Lutrinae

All the life of a Muslim should be in the help of others.
Fasting is more about learning about the life of the poor.

Working on personal psychology and understanding the reality of things, boost up the whole performance in other duties.

chimp3

Many go to jobs during the day. You won't be smelling tobacco at least. 
But yeah; the night is usually when the whole experience of the day is demolished.

vorlon13

God is merciful.

Minimalist

I think missionaries didn't put a lot of effort in that part.

KUSA 

Using missiles and fancy bombs is just like suicide bombing and using nail bombs.
The killing is the same. The destructive result is the same. Death and misery are the same.

succubus

As Sura 2, Page 28, The Quran said, The feeding poor people and doing charity would substitute for the hardship in fasting.

BrianSoddingBoru4

It's a good thing to show support for the poor on the personal level, by going through what they go through willfully.

volron13

As Sura 2, Page 28, The Quran said, The feeding poor people and doing charity would substitute for the hardship in fasting.
God knows.

Industrial Lad

Thank you; Industrial Lad Smile

zebo-the-fat

It's a matter of trust; really.
Just like the famous pork example: pork is not good for health, and it's forbidden.
Eating dead animals is also forbidden.

In other words; Islam is a system that works for health. A lifestyle that is trusted.

BrianSoddingBoru4

No. That's why we have brains and tasting abilities:

Quote:Sura 36, Page 442, The Quran:

( 34 )   And We placed therein gardens of palm trees and grapevines and caused to burst forth therefrom some springs -
( 35 )   That they may eat of His fruit. And what their hands produced, so will they not be grateful?

Brian37

The feeling of hunger and thirst; though.
I believe that one big portion the problem of poverty, is that the wealthy seem like the never care, never thought about how it would feel to be poor.

I agree far too much of the world's wealthiest people don't care, but why you'd think any religion is cure is beyond me, it's had thousands of years and continent's like Africa haven't been helped much at all by Christians or Muslims or Jews. They like fighting over land yes, but that does not help global poverty.
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#32
RE: Ramadan has come.
Enjoy your holy month.

Personally, I gave up Ramadan for lent.

Or was it the other way around?
Dying to live, living to die.
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#33
RE: Ramadan has come.
Quote:BrianSoddingBoru4

It's a good thing to show support for the poor on the personal level, by going through what they go through willfully.

I suppose I'm just a die-hard old reactionary - I tend to show support for the poor by giving them food, you arrogant, self-righteous prick. How the fuck is you missing a few meals supposed to 'show support for the poor'? You get to eat after sundown and before dawn, the desperately poor do not. You know there's a filling meal in your future, the poor don't. You live indoors, the poor (often) don't.

And I find it the height of pious insensitivity to claim you 'show support for the poor' on line. People without enough to eat are unlikely to own computers and have internet access.

You wouldn't know 'support for the poor' if it came up and bit you on the arse.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#34
RE: Ramadan has come.
Not to be a dick or anything. But why do world leaders care about this so much? I mean i never see them saying to catholics. Happy easter when they go and fast.

I'm just saying. Seems plainly weird. But nonetheless. Have a good holiday.
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#35
RE: Ramadan has come.
Ass mode!

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Nothing spells getting in touch with the poor like going on a temporary and known to be finite fast between sunup and sundown.

The poor don't know when their fast will end. It's just fooling yourself into thinking you're a better person than you are.
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#36
RE: Ramadan has come.
Bit like a god trying out being dead for a weekend, ostensibly to see what it's like to be a human.

Hope you're having a real Ramadan-a-ding-dong, Atlas.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#37
RE: Ramadan has come.
(May 28, 2017 at 3:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I agree far too much of the world's wealthiest people don't care, but why you'd think any religion is cure is beyond me, it's had thousands of years and continent's like Africa haven't been helped much at all by Christians or Muslims or Jews. They like fighting over land yes, but that does not help global poverty.

Africans were used as assets by Muslims, Christians and Jews.

I criticize missionaries and missionary movements because instead of looking to change people's live to the best; they look into servicing the Church or the mosque or the organisation.

Africans were used, just like most poor people are being also used by missionaries: mere assets that increase and grow the numbers following a certain religion.

Masses converted, but did so to eat a free loaf or get a painkiller injection. Life changing doesn't exist.

The Valkyrie

You mean like give it to charity?
It would be nice!

There's also this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-M...t-Of-Lint/

Thank you; Valkyrie.

BrianSoddingBoru4

The first step is to feel hunger.
Many don't feel hunger. 2.1 Billion humans are estimated to be overweight.

Tasting hunger and thirst; even for a month; even for a sunrise to sunset will help understanding the real issue of poverty.

The second step is to give:

Quote:Sura 76, Page 579, The Quran:
( 8 )   And they give food in spite of love for it to the needy, the orphan, and the captive,
( 9 )   [Saying], "We feed you only for the countenance of Allah. We wish not from you reward or gratitude.
( 10 )   Indeed, We fear from our Lord a Day austere and distressful."
( 11 )   So Allah will protect them from the evil of that Day and give them radiance and happiness
( 12 )   And will reward them for what they patiently endured [with] a garden [in Paradise] and silk [garments].

Regeg

Because: 

Yeah..

Jormungandr

It's not a punishment after all. I like to think of it as a hunger strike.
Fasting is more of a self-punishment to stir the feelings and emotions in others, but in the case of Ramadan the only ones involved are God and the self.

Fasting doesn't replace giving the poor. Actually; giving is called "Zaka or Sadaqa" and fasting is called "Seyam"; both are separate types of worship.

Teaching the self something is a great thing. Many fail to do it. Self discipline is one treasured habit.

Cyberman

Thank you; Cyberman.
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