(July 20, 2011 at 8:23 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: Apparently 1 in 5 Americans cannot locate the U.S. on a world map.

1 in 5 Americans cannot locate their head with both hands.



Clearly, as seen in the photos on this web site, FOX news claims that these glaciers have been photoshopped out of existence.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/04/...aciers.php

To work for FOX means you can never step out of asshole mode.

(July 21, 2011 at 4:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: To work for FOX means you can never step out of asshole mode.

I hear it really hurts when they rip your soul out.

(July 21, 2011 at 4:21 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:

(July 21, 2011 at 4:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: To work for FOX means you can never step out of asshole mode.

I hear it really hurts when they rip your soul out.

They never had a soul.

They're far too WHITE to have soul.


Which reminded me of this bit.

(July 21, 2011 at 4:21 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:

(July 21, 2011 at 4:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: To work for FOX means you can never step out of asshole mode.

I hear it really hurts when they rip your soul out.

..and when they rip their hearts out and replace them with credit card swipers.

Praise the greed and the almighty dollar....

Isnt that right Void?

(July 20, 2011 at 2:54 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: I had a thought as I was walking through the unbearable furnace that is the outdoors right now in Kentucky.

Around January, there's a snowstorm somewhere in America. It'll probably happen again this year. When it does, on cue, talking head chuckle about suddenly not hearing from those who are warning us about global warming, with plenty of footage from the area affected. I'm predicting we'll see that again this coming winter. The word "average" is lost on them, I guess.

I know two wrongs don't make a right, but I can't resist. I'm not hearing much from the climate deniers this week.

I'm certainly not a climate expert by any stretch of the imagination, but one thing appears to be holding true ... our oceans don't appear to be swallowing up our big cities any time soon. Apparently the ice that is melting off of Greenland and what not is collecting elsewhere around the globe and causing many glaciers to grow.

http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm


I'm not sure who is affiliated with this site, so don't beat me up on this, but many of the links appear to be legit.

Sea level rise is expected to come much later under Global Warming.

Not everything in this world is instant you know...

(July 21, 2011 at 8:12 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Sea level rise is expected to come much later under Global Warming.

Not everything in this world is instant you know...

Really?

you're talking to me like a third grader?

I was just posting an article that appeared to have some relevance to the conversation. It would appear that certain members are as one-sided as the other group tends to be.

Wasn't Greenland the country where the water level would drop if the icecaps melted there? The sheer mass of the ice on Greenland are pulling the tides higher there.

(July 21, 2011 at 7:47 pm)Cinjin Wrote:

(July 20, 2011 at 2:54 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: I had a thought as I was walking through the unbearable furnace that is the outdoors right now in Kentucky.

Around January, there's a snowstorm somewhere in America. It'll probably happen again this year. When it does, on cue, talking head chuckle about suddenly not hearing from those who are warning us about global warming, with plenty of footage from the area affected. I'm predicting we'll see that again this coming winter. The word "average" is lost on them, I guess.

I know two wrongs don't make a right, but I can't resist. I'm not hearing much from the climate deniers this week.

I'm certainly not a climate expert by any stretch of the imagination, but one thing appears to be holding true ... our oceans don't appear to be swallowing up our big cities any time soon. Apparently the ice that is melting off of Greenland and what not is collecting elsewhere around the globe and causing many glaciers to grow.

http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm


I'm not sure who is affiliated with this site, so don't beat me up on this, but many of the links appear to be legit.

A collection of articles taken out of context is meaningless. So what if glaciers in the eastern Himalayas are adding ice mass? It is the result of increased precipitation due to heavier monsoon rains on that side of the mountains. Increased precipitation in some places was predicted by climate scientists. The other side of the Himalayas is losing ice mass at an increasing rate. The overall net result is that the Himalayas are losing ice at an increasing rate.

It’s the same story for Alaska, Greenland and Antarctica. Some areas in these places are gaining ice. Other areas are losing ice. Overall these places are losing ice mass at an increasing rate. The nonlinear rate of change of what we should be worried about. This paper lays it out fairly well.

Quote:Milankovic climate oscillations help define climate sensitivity and assess potential human-made climate effects. We conclude that Earth in the warmest interglacial periods was less than 1°C warmer than in the Holocene and that goals of limiting human-made warming to 2°C and CO2 to 450 ppm are prescriptions for disaster. Polar warmth in prior interglacials and the Pliocene does not imply that a significant cushion remains between today's climate and dangerous warming, rather that Earth today is poised to experience strong amplifying polar feedbacks in response to moderate additional warming. Deglaciation, disintegration of ice sheets, is nonlinear, spurred by amplifying feedbacks. If warming reaches a level that forces deglaciation, the rate of sea level rise will depend on the doubling time for ice sheet mass loss. Gravity satellite data, although too brief to be conclusive, are consistent with a doubling time of 10 years or less, implying the possibility of multi-meter sea level rise this century.

The scary thing about Hansen’s work here is that it is the skeptics that have been wrong more times than he has. Their claims that Hansen was wrong or that the hockey stick is broken have proven to be false. If Hansen is right again this time things are going to be a lot worse than any of the IPCC’s predictions.