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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 22, 2011 at 1:28 pm
(July 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm)Epimethean Wrote: I blame Dante for the development of this bullshit notion. It took art-not science-to make hell into a full tilt nastiness, and that fact underscores exactly why the notion is pure rubbish. Aside from extortion and coercion, hell has zero value philosophically. It is a political expedient now. While Hell is absolute rubbish, I was always under the impression that Dante was just elaborating on what was envisioned already by the faithful, through the offices of the church.
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 22, 2011 at 1:37 pm
(July 22, 2011 at 1:28 pm)Judas BentHer Wrote: (July 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm)Epimethean Wrote: I blame Dante for the development of this bullshit notion. It took art-not science-to make hell into a full tilt nastiness, and that fact underscores exactly why the notion is pure rubbish. Aside from extortion and coercion, hell has zero value philosophically. It is a political expedient now. While Hell is absolute rubbish, I was always under the impression that Dante was just elaborating on what was envisioned already by the faithful, through the offices of the church.
Quote:BTW, Judas, sadism is not always a bad thing, if you can find a cute masochist.
Everyone needs a hobby.
Dante utterly enhanced and developed things which had never before been so fully laid out, made it completely political, and ushered hell into full view as Italian emerged from Latin. The art is beautiful, but ever since, the psychos who believe in heaven and hell have had a visitor's guidebook to hand out to those for whom the basic level of idiocy won't suffice by means of conversion.
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 24, 2011 at 12:12 am
(July 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm)Epimethean Wrote: sadism is not always a bad thing, if you can find a cute masochist.
Ah, but when a (cute) masochist says, "Beat me", the true sadist says "No". 
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 24, 2011 at 1:19 am
(July 24, 2011 at 12:12 am)BethK Wrote: Ah, but when a (cute) masochist says, "Beat me", the true sadist says "No".
Old joke, but funny 
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 24, 2011 at 6:39 pm
(July 20, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Rhythm Wrote: There are plenty of "incontrovertable truths" can be leveraged against your concept of god. Hey, the biblical god is a myth. When I do die, I wont go to heaven or a hell. Certain enough?
You wont know till your dead so how are you certain when you are alive?
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 24, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Apparently YOU won't know. I do. You could too if you took the time to educate yourself in the physical sciences.
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 24, 2011 at 9:35 pm
(July 24, 2011 at 7:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Apparently YOU won't know. I do. You could too if you took the time to educate yourself in the physical sciences.
It is unsure in science, I would rather be hopeful.
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 24, 2011 at 10:41 pm
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(July 24, 2011 at 9:35 pm)C Rod Wrote: (July 24, 2011 at 7:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Apparently YOU won't know. I do. You could too if you took the time to educate yourself in the physical sciences.
It is unsure in science, I would rather be hopeful. And why not. When you're wrong, it's not like you'll be able to stomp your foot and say; Oh hell this sucks!I took a dunkin for nuthin.
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 25, 2011 at 1:23 am
(July 24, 2011 at 12:12 am)BethK Wrote: (July 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm)Epimethean Wrote: sadism is not always a bad thing, if you can find a cute masochist.
Ah, but when a (cute) masochist says, "Beat me", the true sadist says "No".
LOL. The main reason for D/s is therein laid out.
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
July 25, 2011 at 6:53 am
The existence of an afterlife, as described by christians, is not unsure in science. It is an impossibility. It is unsure to you. If this coerces you into belief, then so be it. Don't expect me to sit here and agree with you even in principle, educate yourself and stop spouting garbage, your faith will be stronger because of it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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