I blame the Atlantean for not leaving clear-cut instructions on how to build Stargates.

Now there was a movie that was superb.... for about 40 minutes.  And then it went to shit.

(July 20, 2017 at 7:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Now there was a movie that was superb.... for about 40 minutes.  And then it went to shit.

They spent too much time trying to get us to care about that Maji and his flock.

Minor...-minor- point of contention..it was faster to travel against the current on the Nile than with it, due to prevailing winds.  

I really do think that the catchment theory has merit.  The engineers who knew how to build pyramids made no provision to wick away the 1mil gals of water that would have inundated the base for every inch of rain fallen...but..instead, accidentally made them as water tight as they needed to be for irrigation with an accidental valley pyramid at the base of each and every one? They all just..incidentally, show signs of moving water?

Too much for me to believe, just like it;s too much for me to believe that they engaged in these projects solely as mausoleums. Their entire civilization -and religion- was built around water management, and the singlemost effective water management solutions they ever engineered...also the largest structures they ever engineered, but they aren't commonly thought of as such? Just resurrection machines? Nah.

People have never, ever, been that dumb. Even if they started out that dumb, and built the pyramids for no good reason.....they would have -immediately- realized their value.

(July 20, 2017 at 7:40 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(July 20, 2017 at 7:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Now there was a movie that was superb.... for about 40 minutes.  And then it went to shit.

They spent too much time trying to get us to care about that Maji and his flock.

Yeah - and we had to get the stock character tough as nails army guy with the personal problem who always shows up in these things and then it turns into your basic Hollywood shoot-em-up.

Point well made, Min. I couldn't build them in 20 years now.

See if you can read this, Shel.

If not, I'll copy it out and send it.  The Japanese tried to build a mock up of the GP in 1978 using original technology.  It was a devastating flop and they ended up using winches and cranes and modern boats to get stones across the river.  A total clusterfuck.

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-fre...946990D6CF

I can't read it without a membership. Maybe I can find something else in it.

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I found this video and a tumblr post on the topic. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OHOgtQa7LVw

(July 20, 2017 at 8:21 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Minor...-minor- point of contention..it was faster to travel against the current on the Nile than with it, due to prevailing winds.  

I really do think that the catchment theory has merit.  The engineers who knew how to build pyramids made no provision to wick away the 1mil gals of water that would have inundated the base for every inch of rain fallen...but..instead, accidentally made them as water tight as they needed to be for irrigation with an accidental valley pyramid at the base of each and every one?  They all just..incidentally, show signs of moving water?

Too much for me to believe, just like it;s too much for me to believe that they engaged in these projects solely as mausoleums.  Their entire civilization -and religion- was built around water management, and the singlemost effective water management solutions they ever engineered...also the largest structures they ever engineered, but they aren't commonly thought of as such?  Just resurrection machines?  Nah.  

People have never, ever, been that dumb.  Even if they started out that dumb, and built the pyramids for no good reason.....they would have -immediately- realized their value.

The Giza Plateau is a bit too high for the Nile to flood it.



60 meters of water, over 200 feet just to reach the base?  The flood would have killed everyone in Egypt.  Now geologist Robert Schock did provide evidence of a period of heavy rainfall on Giza with erosional patterns on the boundary wall of the sphinx enclosure.  The problem is, that period ended in c 4,000 BC after persisting for 3,000 years.

Of course, if the Giza pyramids were not built in the 4th Dynasty period then all bets are off...........

(July 21, 2017 at 10:46 am)Shell B Wrote: I can't read it without a membership. Maybe I can find something else in it.

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I found this video and a tumblr post on the topic. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OHOgtQa7LVw

Quote:CAIRO, March 6—The Japanese, who mastered the art of the compact automobile and the transistor television set, have now tried their hand at the Egyptian pyramid. They learned less about the ancient pharaonic secrets than they did about frustrations of modern Egypt.
Stone by overpriced stone, a Japanese television company set out on the western edge of Cairo to raise a pyramid on a desert rise overlooking the Great Pyramids of Giza, with the assistance of a Japanese master craftsman, two cranes, a fork lift vehicle and hundreds of bags of Rumanian cement.
The imitation will not endure the sands of time because the Egyptian Government wants the pyramid dismantled and hauled away.
The work, when visited the other day, was only six days behind schedule. Egyptian laborers in dusty robes and turbans staggered under baskets filled with sand to shore up a ramp. A Japanese in a white plastic helmet waved into position one more three‐ton block of limestone dangling from heavy crane.
The project was conceived'by Sajuki Yoshimura, an archeologist from Waseda University who married an Egyptian and. now lives here. He thought that a do‐it‐yourself pyramid might help answer the riddles about the manner of the pyramid construction. Mr. Yoshimura said that “ever since I saw the pyramids, my dream was to build a small pyramid.”
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Mr. Yoshimura's dream was fulfilled by Nippon Television, which budgeted Sl million to turn the project into pair of Thursday night documentary specials.
A team of two dozen Japanese wearing blue and gray baseball caps flew into Cairo to explore every aspect of pyramid building.
“And many secrets may be solved,” promised their press release. “How many workers were needed to pull a four‐ton stone block? What size rollers were used? What was the method used to synchronize the workers’ efforts? The rhythmic beat of drum or a chant? How were the thousands of workers and slaves organized into effective working groups?
The intention was to build a model 65 feet high and 96 feet across, in scaled‐down proportion to the Cheops Pyramid, which is 482 feet high with a 756‐foot base.
The size of the Japanese pyramid was sharply reduced when its builders discovered that they could not afford all the limestone needed.
“After we announced we were building the pyramid, the prices went up,” said Takayoshi Sato, the project's television director. “We cannot fight against Egyptian merchant tradition. They have the experience of 5,000 years and NTV has only 25 years’ experience.”
Erecting even a compromise pyramid with a 36‐foot summit and a 50‐foot base has not been simple, Each standard limestone block, though just over three feet square, weighs nearly three tons.
Well before the first stone arrived, there were public complaints that the Egyptian Government was letting a television stunt deface the desert landscape.
Other problems followed. The site selected for its view of the pyramids offered no natural rock base, so a concrete foundation had to be poured, The limestone, quarried at Helwan, just south of Cairo, was badly hewed and the stones did not fit together properly.
The pharaohs had no lack of labor, but the Japanese have been limited to hiring fewer than 100 laborers, mostly farmers from nearby, They have been paid handsomely by Egyptian standards, earning about $5.50 a day by working from 9 A.M. to 6 P.M., with a coffee break and lunch hour thrown in

This was the article, although the video said it pretty well except for the woo-woo stuff at the end.  That's just an argument from ignorance.  We don't know so let's make some shit up.  The basis of all religion!

I recall one Egyptologist named Mark Lehner who explained that 12 men could pull a stone relatively easily on a sled.  Of course, that's moving in a straight line on flat ground.  He never did discuss how you moved the same block up a slope.  Details, details.