Just think about it.
Life is insignificant, utterly short for anything. Time moves by pretty quickly, and we move with it: pretty quickly too.

I remember my childhood as a stream of... things? a stream locked inside a box called "the past". Your life too it pretty much that.
In other words; all the people we know from the past are probably gone. Nobody waits, or even stays by their own free will: life is more of a burden whenever we are loaded with sickness, wounds and pain.

Mere visitors we are; we get suffocated by the scents left from those who went and left; everything leaves. Depression isn't a sickness; I feel it's more of a logical conclusion if we thought carefully about our current ground and what is to come; and what had already gone.

Don't get me wrong; but everything is meant to end from the moment it is present. Only one thing is the same; never changes; never leaves.

I guess it's a sign. If one never saw it; one will meet it.

Keep thinking them happy thoughts!

(August 14, 2017 at 1:57 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Just think about it.
Life is insignificant, utterly short for anything. Time moves by pretty quickly, and we move with it: pretty quickly too.

I remember my childhood as a stream of... things? a stream locked inside a box called "the past". Your life too it pretty much that.
In other words; all the people we know from the past are probably gone. Nobody waits, or even stays by their own free will: life is more of a burden whenever we are loaded with sickness, wounds and pain.

Mere visitors we are; we get suffocated by the scents left from those who went and left; everything leaves. Depression isn't a sickness; I feel it's more of a logical conclusion if we thought carefully about our current ground and what is to come; and what had already gone.

Don't get me wrong; but everything is meant to end from the moment it is present. Only one thing is the same; never changes; never leaves.

I guess it's a sign. If one never saw it; one will meet it.

I agree life is insignificant, but what do you mean by this post? 

It isn't that life is meant to end, it just does. Just like a season on earth ends, just like hurricane has a start and end. How is it you accept that a hurricane does not start or end because of the will of Poseidon?

It is not a "sign" it is a cycle. Just like when you eat it is predictable that you will shit and pee at some point. But there is no meaning behind your pee or poo, it just does.

I don't see why you as a Muslim, or a Christian or a Hindu or a Buddhist or a Jew are so desperate for "all this" to be explained with gap answers? I think you are  a nice guy, just like I think CL is a nice lady. But being unimportant to the universe in cosmic time, does not mean we are not important now, short term while we are alive, we most certainly are important because right now, all humans have are each other.

We cannot stop what the planet or sun does no, we cant stop what the universe does no, but we can think as a species how to put our differences on the back burner and look to solve problems while the ride is still going to extend it.

Being finite and accepting we are finite DOES NOT have to be viewed as fatalistic or pessimistic. I am not a big fan of cliche's but facing the good and the bad as my mom put it in printing this saying out for me is a good guide, "Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened."  Her death hurt me deeply, but I also know she would not want me to be depressed over her death for the rest of my life.

(August 14, 2017 at 2:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Keep thinking them happy thoughts!

Keep On The Sunni (or Shia) Side Of Life!

You know....when I think about life, what comes out doesn't sound anything like your life Atlas.  

Maybe that -is- a sign........

(August 14, 2017 at 3:03 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(August 14, 2017 at 2:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Keep thinking them happy thoughts!

Keep On The Sunni (or Shia) Side Of Life!

Come on lets be fair, Atlass33 is actually reasonable even compared to many of the Christians we run into.

I like him. I think he is as full of crap as CL just like my mom, when they claim claims of sky wizards. But I am not in the slightest worried that either Altlass33 or CL are going to have me arrested or murdered anymore than I thought my Catholic mom wanted to kill me, and she loved me and died, never giving up on that fictional utopia. 

But I like Atlass33.  I like CL TOO, sure I'd be lying if I said I didn't want them to give up on their fantasy, but I do like them. 

Now here would be a great party. We all hang out. The atheists provide the barbecue kittens and babies. CL provides the pedophile priests and Atlass provides the fireworks. 

If that is not a backyard barbecue I don't know what is.

We are all made of dead stars. What more wonder does anyone ever need.

(August 14, 2017 at 6:02 pm)Succubus Wrote: We are all made of dead stars. What more wonder does anyone ever need.

Just a little bit more. What was the matter in stars before that I 'wonder'?

(August 14, 2017 at 6:24 pm)Haydn2 Wrote:

(August 14, 2017 at 6:02 pm)Succubus Wrote: We are all made of dead stars. What more wonder does anyone ever need.

Just a little bit more. What was the matter in stars before that I 'wonder'?

Hydrogen and small amounts of Helium and Lithium formed from the quarks and electrons floating around back then. Where they came from exactly is still debated, but they were likely produced from a different form of energy, e.g. the postulated Inflaton field.

(August 14, 2017 at 6:02 pm)Succubus Wrote: We are all made of dead stars. What more wonder does anyone ever need.

That is far more a comfort to me than claims of old mythology. 

To know that while my consciousness is finite, knowing that the atoms that have cycled through me from my conception and will go onto other things after my death, I don't have to cling to my consciousness being prior or after, just knowing I had this brief finite cognition, I call my brain in motion, is enough for me. 

I find that amazing enough without a pre life or afterlife. I am not that narcissistic or selfish to think I am special in the history of a 13.8 billion year old universe, knowing in our planet's 4 billion year old history of evolution other life has not been so lucky. I am lucky yes, but  I am not special.