(September 5, 2017 at 2:14 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(September 5, 2017 at 1:57 pm)Drich Wrote: Hitler showed no loyalty to people outside positive Christianity is because in positive Christianity Hitler WAS The Messiah.

but... but... when I was a christian, I believed christianity was a good thing with jesus being the ultimate good guy.

And then I embraced reality. You should try.

Then you were an idiot...

Because Christianity is not about being the 'good guy.' It is about being accepted for who you truly are.

(September 6, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Drich Wrote:

(September 5, 2017 at 2:14 pm)LastPoet Wrote: but... but... when I was a christian, I believed christianity was a good thing with jesus being the ultimate good guy.

And then I embraced reality. You should try.

Then you were an idiot...

Because Christianity is not about being the 'good guy.' It is about being accepted for who you truly are.

Wow.  He didn't say it was about being the good guy.  But we know who the idiot is here.

(September 6, 2017 at 1:01 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(September 6, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Drich Wrote: Then you were an idiot...

Because Christianity is not about being the 'good guy.' It is about being accepted for who you truly are.

Wow.  He didn't say it was about being the good guy.  But we know who the idiot is here.

Glob...

Let me break it down for the intellectually impaired:

"Jesus ultimate good Guy."

Christian= Follower of Christ/Walker in the foot steps of Christ=one who tries to mimic or follow the life Christ lead.

So for Lastpoet Christians= followed the Ultimate good guy role model.

The Bible/Drich says Christianity is not about being the ultimate good guy. It is about God being able to accept you for who you are because of what Christ did.

So to sum things up. whether you understood what poet said or not whether he intended this extrapolation or not he did imply that "It" is indeed about being the 'good guy.'

(September 6, 2017 at 1:14 pm)Drich Wrote:

(September 6, 2017 at 1:01 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Wow.  He didn't say it was about being the good guy.  But we know who the idiot is here.

Glob...

Let me break it down for the intellectually impaired:

"Jesus ultimate good Guy."

Christian= Follower of Christ/Walker in the foot steps of Christ=one who tries to mimic or follow the life Christ lead.

So for Lastpoet Christians= followed the Ultimate good guy role model.

The Bible/Drich says Christianity is not about being the ultimate good guy. It is about God being able to accept you for who you are because of what Christ did.

So to sum things up. whether you understood what poet said or not whether he intended this extrapolation or not he did imply that "It" is indeed about being the 'good guy.'

Really had to reach for that, huh?

Classic Drich ... impertinens ex culo.

That is not an uncommon argument from protestants, that a Christian need not justify himself to his fellowmen by doing anything to contribute to the common good as might determined by any normally constituted member of a productive society. He need only to convince himself he is good with God

Why else do you think evangelical Christianity prospers amongst not only the most hopeless but the most disgustingly and nullistically selfish parts of humanity?

(September 6, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Drich Wrote:

(September 5, 2017 at 2:14 pm)LastPoet Wrote: but... but... when I was a christian, I believed christianity was a good thing with jesus being the ultimate good guy.

And then I embraced reality. You should try.

Then you were an idiot...

Because Christianity is not about being the 'good guy.' It is about being accepted for who you truly are.

Yes Drich, you calling me an idiot is the perfect example of the dunning-kruger effect. Like I said, I stopped believing in fantasies, it is called growing up.

GBJOYA™

(August 27, 2017 at 7:48 pm)CatholicDefender Wrote: As a devout Catholic, I have some real problems with people saying Hitler was "one of us"

It is extraordinarily shameful and embarrassing to hear that kind of shit coming from peoples lips, and quite frankly not even correct.

First of all, I don't think Hitler was an atheist. He said much to the effect of God being on his side, though I think he meant more destiny and the universe rather than Jehovah himself.

True he was baptized into the Catholic Church in his little town in Austria. But practically all gentile Austrians at that time were Roman Catholic. If Hitler were born in Denmark, he would have been Lutheran, and Anglican if he had been born in England.


What Im saying is one's degree of adherence and respect for one's faith surely matters instead of none at all. 

Hitler didn't even reference his love for the Catholic faith when on the campaign trail, more just his reverence for Jesus/Christinaity in general (I suppose it was must given how a slight majority of Germany was Protestant at the time .)

Kind of terrible that he basically won the Christian vote, but that is a topic for a different time.

Did he ever evidence Catholic devotion outside of the campaign trail/public events? Did he and Eva Braun, the woman he lived in sin with ever go to bible studies or say the rosary? Id love to see any evidence that they actually did.

There were plenty of Catholic shrines in occupied Europe at the time. Why didn't the Nazis ever organize pilgrimages to see them in stead to their drunk,degenerate icons such as Horst Wessel and others?

My main point is that Hitler's nominal Catholicism was incidental, as opposed to the driving force behind his anti-semitism and shiftiness in general.

Nazism was at its core a materialistic philosophy, concerned with the material only as opposed to the spiritual. What it wanted was just the supremacy of the Nordic (Northern European race), the enslavement of the Eastern Europeans to achieve that end, and the elimination of European Jewry( apparently a liberalizing, cosmopolitan force.)

I am fairly certain the source of Nazi anti-semitism was not the Traditionalist Christian variety, but the more modern version of the Zionist/Rothchild cabal of world finance  trying to undermine and destroy the "Goy"  .

I don't believe he viewed the Pope as a friend, and he and many high ranking Nazis were frustrated and suspicious of the Catholic Church, since it was an entity that they could never control (unlike those poor fragmented Protestant ones.)

I believe one has to somewhat adhere to Catholic doctrine in order to be a Catholic in a meanginful, serious way.

Is there any evidence Hitler's Catholicism was something he took seriously and loved, or was it just some sort of tribal identification which he never gave much of a thought (the latter is depressingly common in todays Catholic world.)

For being a devout Catholic he sure was mean and cruel to his fellow Catholics. How do you explain this scene and a devoutly Catholic Hitler? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV9H7aWgPv8

I sure hope those nuns weren't sent to Dachau!

if Hitler was catholic he was a non practicing one to say the least.

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(September 7, 2017 at 8:15 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(September 6, 2017 at 1:14 pm)Drich Wrote: Glob...

Let me break it down for the intellectually impaired:

"Jesus ultimate good Guy."

Christian= Follower of Christ/Walker in the foot steps of Christ=one who tries to mimic or follow the life Christ lead.

So for Lastpoet Christians= followed the Ultimate good guy role model.

The Bible/Drich says Christianity is not about being the ultimate good guy. It is about God being able to accept you for who you are because of what Christ did.

So to sum things up. whether you understood what poet said or not whether he intended this extrapolation or not he did imply that "It" is indeed about being the 'good guy.'

Really had to reach for that, huh?

non of us are good enough to enter into heaven. that is why jesus died for your souls. but the question is do you reject or accept his punishment in your place.

Joshua martin pryce Wrote:none of us are good enough to enter into heaven. that is why jesus died for your souls. but the question is do you reject or accept his punishment in your place.

I think the questions to ask are (1) Are you so morally bankrupt that vicarious atonement strikes you as a good thing? and (2) Are you really credulous enough to believe in such barbaric nonsense?

Quote:Christian= Follower of Christ/Walker in the foot steps of Christ=one who tries to mimic or follow the life Christ lead = idiot!