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Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 12, 2017 at 7:47 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(September 12, 2017 at 7:39 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Lets review shall we.

I posted a video of eye witness testimony of Marilyn Hickey claiming she saw an entity in the form of a spinning light.

I also posted the audio of the aforementioned where William Branham clearly states that a supernatural light is present.

I posted a photograph of where this light is positioned just over William Branhams head. (I posted biblical scripture where the same event was recorded, showing a precedent.)

I posted the report of scientific testing done to the negative and the expert opinion stating that there had to be a source of light there to form an image on the negative (this eliminates any anomalies, not to mention lights just don't hang out over peoples heads for no apparent reason)

The Athiest response:

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Your denial of the evidence is based on nothing.

Which shows your denial of the evidence is totally irrational seeing how none of you has proven God doesn't exist. Therefore if there is a possibility that God exists, then supernatural events aren't an impossibility.


"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."



No, the atheist response is, "there are way too many possible natural explanations for all those events, to accept that the only explanation is a miracle".

How did you go about ruling out all possible natural explanations?

Quote:"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

This is actually a fallacious quote.

It is an almost textbook example of argument from ignorance.

I'm all ears...
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
No huggy you moron our response is there is nothing here that can't be explained by mundane means. And nothing you have demonstrated explicitly as coming from a supernatural cause . A person being misdiagnosed . A dot in the sky . And a light flare on a film . Dose not the supernatural make. And nor does ignoring a large swath of articles debunking your moronic narrative about placebo effect (feels do not cure people)

Quote:"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."


1. That's bullocks.

2. sir arthur conan doyle was a brilliant writer. But also a paranormalist quack .Who was tricked countless times into believing rubbish. So turning to him for epistemological advice is not a great move.

Quote:I'm all ears...
Already been done throughout this thread.

And yes it is a argument from ignorance
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 12, 2017 at 7:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Marilyn Hickey is a phony money-grubbing cunt who gets rich off of shitheads like you, Huggy.

http://www.forgottenword.org/hickey.html

Quote:Marilyn Hickey, wow, has she gotten off the path to righteousness. I am continually amazed at her tactics to raise money. She has now incorporated her daughter into the ministry and has her performing the same deceptive practices against the followers as her mother has done for years.

I mean, if you want to support charlatans go right ahead, idiot.  It's your money.  But please stop insulting everybody's intelligence with this faith-healing horseshit.

Be a moron on your own time.

I don't agree with Marilyn Hickey on a personal level, how she runs her organization does not mean she is lying about what she experienced, especially when you include all the corroborating evidence.

Nice try though...
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 12, 2017 at 8:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 12, 2017 at 7:47 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: No, the atheist response is, "there are way too many possible natural explanations for all those events, to accept that the only explanation is a miracle".

How did you go about ruling out all possible natural explanations?


This is actually a fallacious quote.

It is an almost textbook example of argument from ignorance.

I'm all ears...

Congratulations, Huggy.  You have evidence of light.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 12, 2017 at 8:08 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: No huggy you moron our response is there is nothing here that can't be explained by mundane means. And nothing you have demonstrated explicitly as coming from a supernatural cause . A person being misdiagnosed . A dot in the sky . And a light flare on a film . Dose not the supernatural make. And nor does ignoring a large swath of articles debunking your moronic narrative about placebo effect (feels do not cure people)

Quote:"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."


1. That's bullocks.

2. sir arthur conan doyle was a brilliant writer. But also a paranormalist quack .Who was tricked countless times into believing rubbish. So turning to him for epistemological advice is not a great move.

Quote:I'm all ears...
Already been done throughout this thread

All that has been done is a bunch of speculation without having examined the evidence yourself. I forget which part of the scientific method that is...
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
Quote:does not mean she is lying about what she experienced, especially when you include all the corroborating evidence.

No but it gives her a reason to lie . And so far that corroborating evidence has been complete shit . Which only enhances the suspicion . But nice try huggies

Quote:All that has been done is a bunch of speculation without having examined the evidence yourself. I forget which part of the scientific method that is...
Nope all we done is suggest shit we already know happens and exists  (most of it via science ). Based on the bullocks you push as evidence of fairy dust  . You on the other hand post some crap and scream IT'S MAGIC! IT'S MAGIC!.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 12, 2017 at 8:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 12, 2017 at 7:47 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: No, the atheist response is, "there are way too many possible natural explanations for all those events, to accept that the only explanation is a miracle".

How did you go about ruling out all possible natural explanations?


This is actually a fallacious quote.

It is an almost textbook example of argument from ignorance.

I'm all ears...



All ears for what?

You don't get this whole, critical thinking thing, do you?

You are the one that is claiming that the only explanation for this event is supernatural. But you don't stop there, you claim a god is responsible. But do you stop there? No. You claim it can only be your specific god. It is up to you to prove your case. It is not up to us to prove you wrong.

It is not our fault that your evidence for this extraordinary claim is quite mundane. The only reason why we are rejecting your evidence, is because it is far from convincing for the above claims you are making.

There are tons of videos, testimony, stories, etc, from 'miracle healers' that are Hindus, Muslims, and New Agers. The evidence for their claims are no better or worse that yours. Yet, you are making a special case to disbelieve theirs, and believe yours.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
I swear if you lived 3000 years ago and looked up at the sun you scream . Magic! Magic !
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 12, 2017 at 8:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 12, 2017 at 8:08 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: No huggy you moron our response is there is nothing here that can't be explained by mundane means. And nothing you have demonstrated explicitly as coming from a supernatural cause . A person being misdiagnosed . A dot in the sky . And a light flare on a film . Dose not the supernatural make. And nor does ignoring a large swath of articles debunking your moronic narrative about placebo effect (feels do not cure people)



1. That's bullocks.

2. sir arthur conan doyle was a brilliant writer. But also a paranormalist quack .Who was tricked countless times into believing rubbish. So turning to him for epistemological advice is not a great move.

Already been done throughout this thread

All that has been done is a bunch of speculation without having examined the evidence yourself. I forget which part of the scientific method that is...

Lol, Huggy.  Tell us, which part of the scientific method did you use to determine that the light in your picture is the Holy Spirit?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 12, 2017 at 8:24 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(September 12, 2017 at 8:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: All that has been done is a bunch of speculation without having examined the evidence yourself. I forget which part of the scientific method that is...

Lol, Huggy.  Tell us, which part of the scientific method did you use to determine that the light in your picture is the Holy Spirit?

Or that a white dot in the sky is Aliens . Or that feels magic people better (despite all the evidence I provided showing this narrative is false)
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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