(September 13, 2017 at 12:07 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I beg to differ seeing how your original point is completely speculative, so were making hypothetical arguments.

No, you clearly used the real person you were attempting to defend in your example of the single-father pastor with full-time job.  You've been pwned.  Own it.

Quote:I beg to differ seeing how your original point is completely speculative, so were making hypothetical arguments.

Nope you brought up the pastor . We gave a reason that exists for why someone would lie . Stuff that actually happens in real life . And again your supernatural gibberish is the only thing here the  speculative or hypothetical if even that.

Quote:Nope you brought up the pastor .

Lots of those fuckers in jail.  I bet Huggy has an excuse for them ripping off the dolts or fucking little kids, too.

Probably the "They weren't True Christians™" excuse. Hardly surprising, really -- Once you've let a fictional god-man take the fall for you and have your official Get Out of Hell Free card, why bother taking responsibility for anything?

No doubt, my dear.

I bet Huggy thinks he is the only real xtian in the whole wide world!

(September 13, 2017 at 1:28 am)Minimalist Wrote: No doubt, my dear.

I bet Huggy thinks he is the only real xtian in the whole wide world!

He's going to be soooo lonely in Huggy Heaven.

I may have to read this.  You can bet your butt that Huggy and the other god buggerers won't go near it!

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/1040266/...siah-myth/

Quote:Since the eighteenth century, scholars and historians studying the texts of the Bible have attempted to distil historical facts and biography from the mythology and miracles described there. That trend continues into the present day, as scholars dissect the gospels and other early Christian writings to separate the 'Jesus of history' from the 'Christ of faith'. But in The Messiah Myth Thomas L. Thompson argues that the quest for the historical Jesus is beside the point, since the Jesus of the gospels never existed.

Like King David before him, the Jesus of the Bible is an amalgamation of themes from Near Eastern mythology and traditions of kingship and divinity. The theme of a messiah - a divinely appointed king who restores the world to perfection - is typical of Egyptian and Babylonian royal ideology dating back to the Bronze Age. In Thompson's view, the contemporary audience for whom the Old and New Testament were written would naturally have interpreted David and Jesus not as historical figures , but as metaphors embodying long-established messianic traditions.

Huggy's head would explode just from all the big words.

Ahh..

Unable to refute the evidence presented so we start with ad homenim attacks...

Carry on

(September 13, 2017 at 1:57 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Ahh..

Unable to refute the evidence presented so we start with ad homenim attacks...

Carry on

Testimony isn't evidence, Huggy.  



Yep.  I did it.  Sorry everyone.  😇

(September 12, 2017 at 10:14 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(September 12, 2017 at 9:02 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: What "world view" is that exactly?  Rational skepticism?  

I'll ask you again.  Since your own scientific source determined only that the cause of image was light, how did you reach the conclusion that the source of the light was the Holy Spirit?  I find it highly more probable that the light was caused by something natural rather than supernatural, because I know of many, many sources of natural light that actually exist.  This shouldn't be so hard, Hugz.

Spare me LFC, you have been shown to have a clear bias when it comes down to me disproving your fellow atheists position, you don't care about facts at all, your position is to deny at all costs, and I'm not speaking of the supernatural here either, I'm speaking of just ordinary things that are easily provable.

If you want evidence of that, I be more than happy to oblige..

Not that this even deserves a response, but I have stood corrected by theists and atheists alike on this forum many a time, including by you once, you ass, so I'm really not sure where that charge is coming from.  And, I swear to God, if you link to Rhythm and the goddamned bees again, I'm gonna puke in my mouth. I do notice though, that amidst the personal attack, you failed to answer my question.  I wonder why?

(September 12, 2017 at 10:14 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: There is one major flaw with your theory (besides the fact that it's pure speculation), It ignores the testimony of people the saw it with their own eyes...







At 5:34 of the audio recording William Branham asking someone:

"Can't you see that light? The amber light like you see in the picture... There it is it's right over the lady. it's moving around."

Okay, so 'gullible' it REALLY is then, Huggy. People saw it with their own eyes after they were explicitly directed to do so. The pastor literally TELLS the audience that there is a light hovering over someone's head, and he doesn't even stop there.  He baldly suggests to them, "just like in the picture," specifically so that none of his rapt believers miss the biblical parallel he's trying to draw. This is common stage hypnotism.  Highly suggestable folks who are eager to believe are easy to manipulate.

Shame on you for being taken by such foolishness. Please, quit while your behind.

Quote:Ahh..
Unable to refute the evidence presented so we start with ad homenim attacks...
Carry on

Nope refuted your nonesense and now we can ridiculing you for being a twat

Quote:Spare me LFC, you have been shown to have a clear bias when it comes down to me disproving your fellow atheists position, you don't care about facts at all, your position is to deny at all costs, and I'm not speaking of the supernatural here either, I'm speaking of just ordinary things that are easily provable.

If you want evidence of that, I be more than happy to oblige

Ah so this is how you excuse your failures . And no huggy you have yet to disproved squat .

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Quote:This is common stage hypnotism

And cult leaders when throwing there flock into religious mania .