Or...you could be a man and finish out the last thread you started with it's multiple challenges to the argument you offered. You ask us to take the time to read and discuss these arguments of yours, but when people bring up legitimate objections, you can't even be a respectable interlocutor and address them. Instead, you abandon the thread and then go on a preaching rant. Frankly, it's rude and annoying.

"Terms' commerce" is one cheap line of business.
All we need is a worm with a big mouth, that spend time in writing garbage to advertise for the sake of a regime, cult, institution or even yourself.

I call it "internet junk"; it gives you a sense of "importance", make you feel you're "in control". But it's actually junk.
What "love"? do you realize what you're writing; OP?

Quote:It is a true vision of things as they are and giving them their worth by actions

"True vision"? so, you and your cult posses the truth, right? you can "see" things as they are. That's the most delusional crap I have ever read in my life.

You see; it's an equation: throw "love" as an adjective, dance with gymnastic moves around discussions and counter-argument, and lie, that way you give yourself the illusion of superiority.

Or give others the illusion that you have something. Bullshit. All you have is bullshit.
Smart people know the value of bullshit. That's why Nazi Germany made it a motto for its propaganda that is "full of shit". Ironically; you guys don't even compare to Nazies. You are lower than that.


So keep lying, keep being a tool.
Keep copy-catting and changing writing style.

You won't change the truth: you're a tool with nothing.

To believe in yourself is to believe in value, belief in value is but the vision of true love, and true love is but the vision of worth and value through the light that connects us to God and to each other. Seeing is believing.

Say: no wage do I ask for it except the love of the near kin (of the Messenger) (42:23)

That is because the family of the reminder are the guides who the light the way of the path and make us know God's treasure in us that is with him.

Say: no wage do I ask for it except who wants, to take a path to his Lord (25:57)

Say: whatever wage I have asked for it, it is for yourselves (34:47)

(September 12, 2017 at 7:58 am)MysticKnight Wrote: To believe in yourself is to believe in value, belief in value is but the vision of true love, and true love is but the vision of worth and value through the light that connects us to God and to each other.  Seeing is believing.

Say: no wage do I ask for it except the love of the near kin (of the Messenger) (42:23)

That is because the family of the reminder are the guides who the light the way of the path and make us know God's treasure in us that is with him.

Say: no wage do I ask for it except who wants, to take a path to his Lord (25:57)

Say: whatever wage I have asked for it, it is for yourselves (34:47)

Liar.
Your cult brings nothing but torture, darkness and pain.

A cult of hateful criminals. You lie to westerners by claiming "love", while in reality, you and your Sunni brothers torture us and kill us under "customized Fatawas". Don't lie about love. There is nothing but hate in the Shiite faith.

"Seeing is believing".

I once saw David Copafeel - sorry, Copperfield - make the Statue of Liberty disappear. Must I believe it?

Whilst on medication and alone in my flat, I once saw a twelve-foot shadow figure walk past my bedroom door, only to have vanished a second later when I investigated. Must I believe it?

I once saw Mark Hamill fly a spaceship and blow up a space station the size of a small moon. Must I therefore believe it?

Seeing is only believing if you are satisfied with not wanting to know how the seeing occurred; if you are content to remain in ignorance that feeds into your comfortable preconceptions.

May God curse all sorcerers who are the means of the knots and locks from the evil dark enemy of humanity regarding the blessed recitation of the Compassionate Lord, the signs and clear proofs that remind of God and remind of the leaders who call to God who are the means to recite the revelations and return to God's blessed land. The cowards from the evil from those who practice of dark arts who fear death and hence act according to Satan's bidding, to those who enjoy the dark magic they are doing to those who are restlessly trying to mask the truth and hide it and defeat believers. Those who believe in masking the truth and will claim Mohammed to be an enlightened one who similarly masked the truth and will have their perverse interpretation of Quran in which they will claim "revelation" means this and that, and so on and so forth and twist the Quran in which the creed of the deceivers will even be justified through the Quran - what else is new- if 4:59 can be twisted to mean obey Yazeed why not them? The creed of the deceivers vs the martyred guides who strove to manifest the truth and call people to themselves only because they were the actually true link and leaders who lead to God is a showdown that will take place, when the darkness is at it's worse, when oppression becomes severe, when deaths become plenty, when resources will become scarce, remember the deliver who delivered Moses and his followers from Pharaoh, remember the deliverer who destroyed Ad and Thamood, remember the chosen one promised by Rasool and nicknamed "The Mahdi". Recall the mystic links in the past to get connected to God today by the mystic link of our time. Remember when things get intense, that God sent Mohammad as a mercy to the worlds and destruction of all Pharaohs.

You had me @ sorcerers.  Praise allah and pass the salt.

All Messengers cried for Hussain because they were preparing the way for Mohammad, but as their society failed, they often blamed their own efforts like the best soccer players in the world blaming themselves like Yonus did. Mohammad came after people gave a very bad response to Messengers, the children of Isreal were a big hope to prepare the way to Mohammad, but they failed and slew some of their Prophets while denied others. Jesus came knowing the chances of Hussain getting killed were increasing and increasing, and wanted people to help God's cause and gave knews of the Most praised one (Ahmad). Mohammad (pbuh&hf) came to a world that rejected Messengers, relied on misguiding leaders for guidance, and didn't look for clear proofs regarding guidance and leaders. They settled for oppression, injustice, and innovations and rituals that were irrational, dark, and revealed from a sinister source. They mixed truth with falsehood and did not care as long as the mix suited their desires. Mohammad (pbuh&hf) built a noble force, assembled forces and purified them, they were the last hope, the last hope of Hussain not dying. Overwhelmed by the very people who fought them who now were "Muslims" as well, some of them became apathetic when they saw the succession of Ali being taken over. Some of that apathy changed and they turned back to repentance and came to Ali later. But the harm was done. Lesson learned: Don't be apathetic. If we don't try, us who know the truth, if we turn on our backs and chase the deceiving world that is bound to perish, if we don't strive hard in God's way with ourselves, wealth and time, than blame ourselves. God isn't hoping the hater of Ali all of sudden recites Quran properly, he is hoping in us who recognize Ali in Quran to strive hard with resolve and save those who seeking the truth from the haters of Ali. May God unite humanity on the love of Mohammad, Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussain and 9 Guides from the offspring of Hussain and make us see the truth and justice with that love, and truly know ourselves and the purpose we are meant for by that love. Imam Hussain did not have to be killed, the Quran with words of enthusiastic encouragement as well as compassionate severe warning, told people "if you do not do it, then there will be in the earth severe tribulation and corruption" and told them "if he dies or is killed, will you turn on your back" and said "hold to the rope of God all together and to not be like those who divided after clear proofs had come to them".

(September 16, 2017 at 1:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: May God curse all sorcerers...

On behalf of the Wayreth Conclave, which includes some black-robed friends of mine (I myself wear red), consider that curse reflected back to the source.

Off your meds again, Mystic?