(October 13, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Khemikal Wrote: "Hey boss, it's not that I'm late, it's just there there's no past or future.  Time doesn't exist!"

Try again.

It's a dead giveaway of a badly thought out argument when the proponent has to deny reality to make it work, isn't it?

(October 13, 2017 at 4:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 4:10 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Huggy, you couldn't pay me to sit through nearly 2 hours of religious drivel.

We live in an interconnected world.  Your god is, supposedly, omnipotent and omniscient.  Surely he could spread his message - even through a proxy - in this world with little trouble if he actually gave a shit.

Jesus was 2000 years ago.  He was the dial-up of prophets.  Where's the Fios version?

To be clear Jesus was God the prophet, the Messiah, you're not going to get better. The scriptures did promise that there would be a prophet in the last days, of which I just posted audio of...

If you're not interested in hearing what he had to say fine... then stop asking questions you really don't want answers to.

I want cogent answers, not drivel.

If Jesus was god the prophet, well, he needs to be fired.  Because about half the planet doesn't believe in his message.  A 50% failure rate isn't what I'd expect from the divine being.  Jeff the intern?  Sure, but not Jay-sus, the only Son of God, the Christ, the Messiah, the Shepherd, the King of Kings....

And, of course, there's nothing to stop your god from, you know, having more prophets before the end days iteration.  Actual, miracle producing prophets, not a bunch of idiots exploiting bigger idiots with post hoc ergo propter hoc.  I mean, he's god.  He's not beholden to words written in a book, even if they're supposed to come directly from him (he could really use a copy editor, too, while we're at it).

But, again, none of this is real.  It's the original fan fiction.  The alpha version of Twilight.

(October 13, 2017 at 6:14 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 4:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: To be clear Jesus was God the prophet, the Messiah, you're not going to get better. The scriptures did promise that there would be a prophet in the last days, of which I just posted audio of...

If you're not interested in hearing what he had to say fine... then stop asking questions you really don't want answers to.

I want cogent answers, not drivel.

I can't blame you for wanting that from Huggy.

As long as you don't expect it from Huggy. As you'll only be disappointed

(October 13, 2017 at 5:57 pm)Cyberman Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Khemikal Wrote: "Hey boss, it's not that I'm late, it's just there there's no past or future.  Time doesn't exist!"

Try again.

It's a dead giveaway of a badly thought out argument when the proponent has to deny reality to make it work, isn't it?

Really? What part isn't real?

Science tells us that time does not exist from the perspective of a photon, do you agree or disagree?

If you agree then you acknowledge that it is possible that time can cease to exist, making it reality...

Is not a photon a particle of light? Does not the Bible state that God IS light?

God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. - 1 John 1: 5

Therefore time does not exist from Gods perspective.

Isn't it funny how the science always corroborates what the Bible has already stated?

The bible says a lot of things. Lots of cherries to pick.

So "God" is a photon? A particle with zero rest mass that has trouble negotiating fluids and bounces off objects? A photon created the Universe and cries when you touch yourself at night?

This is a prime example of how to the apologist, both reality and the thing they're trying to defend have to be thrown under the bus to make their arguments work.

(October 13, 2017 at 8:53 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Science tells us that time does not exist from the perspective of a photon, do you agree or disagree?

Science tells us that a photon has a perspective? Did they take a poll?

"Hey You! Photon! Slow down! Need to ask you some questions!"

(October 13, 2017 at 3:42 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 3:15 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Are you arguing that your god does not know the choices that will be made?

Knowing what choice one will make does not equate to making the choice for them.

Lol, if your god knows what choice I will make, how can I go against it without falsifying his omniscience?

(October 13, 2017 at 8:53 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 5:57 pm)Cyberman Wrote: It's a dead giveaway of a badly thought out argument when the proponent has to deny reality to make it work, isn't it?

Really? What part isn't real?

Science tells us that time does not exist from the perspective of a photon, do you agree or disagree?

If you agree then you acknowledge that it is possible that time can cease to exist, making it reality...

Is not a photon a particle of light? Does not the Bible state that God IS light?

God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. - 1 John 1: 5

Therefore time does not exist from Gods perspective.

Isn't it funny how the science always corroborates what the Bible has already stated?

Not as funny as several other things I could mention. 

(October 13, 2017 at 8:58 pm)Cyberman Wrote: The bible says a lot of things. Lots of cherries to pick.

So "God" is a photon? A particle with zero rest mass that has trouble negotiating fluids and bounces off objects? A photon created the Universe and cries when you touch yourself at night?

This is a prime example of how to the apologist, both reality and the thing they're trying to defend have to be thrown under the bus to make their arguments work.

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
2 The same was in the beginning with God. 
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

When God appears to Paul, he saw light, so which part of the Bible am I cherry picking exactly?

Pointing to the mythology to prove the mythology won't work. If John had said that "God" was a grilled cheese sandwich, would you still use the story as evidence?