(October 13, 2017 at 9:54 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 9:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The point is you claimed that timelessness cannot exist in reality, and this supposed "mythology" has declared that light is timeless 2000 years ago which is also vindicated scientifically.

Oh, for fuck's sake, don't pretend you don't understand that 'light' and 'darkness' are metaphors in that passage.

I guess Pauls experience was a metaphor too then huh?

Ok, let's grant that 'John' and 'Paul' (and Ringo too, if you like) knew that "God" is a photon. What does the darkness mean in the verse? Dark matter or something?

(October 13, 2017 at 10:07 pm)Cyberman Wrote: If you can get "I claim that timelessness cannot exist in reality" from that, it's no wonder that you can read "God is light" and think it refers to photons.

Image isn't working for me. Could you summarise?

Guy backpedaling.

Weird it was displaying fine on my phone until I posted it.

Oh, right. So do you mean I'm backpedalling, or you are? Because like I said, I never made a claim from which to backpedal.

(October 13, 2017 at 9:54 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 9:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The point is you claimed that timelessness cannot exist in reality, and this supposed "mythology" has declared that light is timeless 2000 years ago which is also vindicated scientifically.

Oh, for fuck's sake, don't pretend you don't understand that 'light' and 'darkness' are metaphors in that passage.

Metaphor? Next you'll be saying he isn't literally a Word either. He is the Word, and apparently that word is photon.

How could a being that doesn’t experience time knowingly interact with those that do? Especially in the cause and effect manner that’s so prevalent in the bible?

In the case of photons, it’s not just that they cannot experience time, but that the dilation also affects distance. From their perspective, they reach their destination instantaneously.

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(October 13, 2017 at 10:25 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 9:54 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Oh, for fuck's sake, don't pretend you don't understand that 'light' and 'darkness' are metaphors in that passage.

Metaphor? Next you'll be saying he isn't literally a Word either. He is the Word, and apparently that word is photon.

I laughed

(October 13, 2017 at 4:28 am)Industrial Lad Wrote:

Godscreated Wrote: It's not about causing suffering, you can't cause God to suffer anymore. It is about rejecting the One who suffered for you so you wouldn't spend an eternity in hell. You sin against an eternal omnipresent God and any sin that isn't forgiven last forever and thus your suffering will last forever.

But why do people deserve to be punished for believing in what isn't proven? What's so criminal about that?
Doesn't punishing people with hell if they don't believe put the onus on god to provide proof?
At least if he is a moral being? To say nothing of being the most moral being.

Evolutionist believe it's criminal to reject evolutionary science, believe me I've heard it many times on this site.

God says that one can look to nature and see that He exists. He gave His Son to redeem mankind. 
Man brought sin into this world and only because God loves us so much did He give us a way out of sin. Man is the guilty party, we continue to sin every day defying what God did for us. He didn't have to it wasn't a requirement that He save a world and it's people from themselves, love of His creation is part of our saving grace. God created a perfect world and mankind has ruined it with sin and so the burden should be on us, however God took it on Himself to bring about a way for man to escape what he did.

GC

How do you know what "God" said?