(October 29, 2017 at 4:07 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(October 29, 2017 at 3:54 pm)Hammy Wrote: I lost my virginity to a married woman who told me she got plenty of sex with her husband every night and that she was just greedy

(this isn't a joke)

There are always exceptions to the rule, I'm sure. Bad people who do wrong things just because they want to.

Hey! I was a 25 year old virgin and she seduced me. And I was single! And I TRIED to resist! And she said it would just be texts but then she asked for more and it felt impossible to say no. I had no idea when I'd next get a chance for sex. I STILL have no idea when I'll next get a chance for sex

Like many technologies it has its positives and negatives.

For lonely people, it might be a great boon. Not just for the sexual aspect but for the companionship a computerised doll might be able to provide.

It might also stop some (not all, certainly), "incel's" whining about their lives and blaming women for their own failings.

On the negative, for some it will probably replace all human interaction as they withdraw from society even more. Then there are the ones who will project a willing, robotic, consenting personality of a robot on to living flesh and blood women.

But, CL, I don't think you've asked the most important question: "Do they do a Hugh Jackman model?"

(October 29, 2017 at 4:12 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Like many technologies it has its positives and negatives.

For lonely people, it might be a great boon.  Not just for the sexual aspect but for the companionship a computerised doll might be able to provide.

It might also stop some (not all, certainly), "incel's" whining about their lives and blaming women for their own failings.

On the negative, for some it will probably replace all human interaction as they withdraw from society even more.  Then there are the ones who will project a willing, robotic, consenting personality of a robot on to living flesh and blood women.

But, CL, I don't think you've asked the most important question:  "Do they do a Hugh Jackman model?"

I prefer human interaction that comes along.

(October 29, 2017 at 4:34 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(October 29, 2017 at 4:12 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Like many technologies it has its positives and negatives.

For lonely people, it might be a great boon.  Not just for the sexual aspect but for the companionship a computerised doll might be able to provide.

It might also stop some (not all, certainly), "incel's" whining about their lives and blaming women for their own failings.

On the negative, for some it will probably replace all human interaction as they withdraw from society even more.  Then there are the ones who will project a willing, robotic, consenting personality of a robot on to living flesh and blood women.

But, CL, I don't think you've asked the most important question:  "Do they do a Hugh Jackman model?"

I prefer human interaction that comes along.

Give me some sugar, baby!

(October 29, 2017 at 3:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(October 29, 2017 at 3:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do you have some sort of data to show that people who were virgins when they married are more likely to cheat on their spouse?

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I would be curious to see people's answers to this. My opinion is it would make it worse. Because it's just another step closer to getting to the "real thing." It just further desensitizes the idea of having sex with a kid.

No. But I know we have a lot of stories and songs about people cheating because of sex. I presume that most people who are unsatisfied with the sex they get with their partner, is because they didn't have sex before marriage. If they did, they'd know what they were getting into, and would have moved on before marrying.

I don't think it quite works that way. Usually, people who choose by their own will to save sex for marriage, do so because they think sex is precious and they value the commitment of marriage. I don't think these people are more likely to cheat.

(October 29, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(October 29, 2017 at 3:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: No. But I know we have a lot of stories and songs about people cheating because of sex. I presume that most people who are unsatisfied with the sex they get with their partner, is because they didn't have sex before marriage. If they did, they'd know what they were getting into, and would have moved on before marrying.

I don't think it quite works that way. Usually, people who choose by their own will to save sex for marriage, do so because they think sex is precious and they value the commitment of marriage. I don't think these people are more likely to cheat.

How do you tell the difference between people who choose it by their own will, and people who do it because there's a lot of cultural pressure to do it? It's like the problem of a christian who is one because they genuinely believe what the bible teaches, or one who's a christian just because they were raised in the church.

(October 29, 2017 at 6:00 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(October 29, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think it quite works that way. Usually, people who choose by their own will to save sex for marriage, do so because they think sex is precious and they value the commitment of marriage. I don't think these people are more likely to cheat.

How do you tell the difference between people who choose it by their own will, and people who do it because there's a lot of cultural pressure to do it? It's like the problem of a christian who is one because they genuinely believe what the bible teaches, or one who's a christian just because they were raised in the church.

I don't think there's much cultural pressure to save sex for marriage anymore. At least in the West, the percentage of people who don't wait are in the 90's. 

Anyway, I found this: https://www.google.com/search?ei=4VL2WeP...XryvUt5PTw

(October 29, 2017 at 4:12 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Like many technologies it has its positives and negatives.

For lonely people, it might be a great boon.  Not just for the sexual aspect but for the companionship a computerised doll might be able to provide.

It might also stop some (not all, certainly), "incel's" whining about their lives and blaming women for their own failings.

On the negative, for some it will probably replace all human interaction as they withdraw from society even more.  Then there are the ones who will project a willing, robotic, consenting personality of a robot on to living flesh and blood women.

But, CL, I don't think you've asked the most important question:  "Do they do a Hugh Jackman model?"

For anyone who is not sure what an "incel" (involuntary celibate) is, here is a link to urban dictionary. A particular definition of incel is quoted below. 

Incel:

"Involuntary Celibate". A frustrated virgin who feels as if the world owes them sex. A self-described 'incel' is highly likely to blame their virginity on the other 6,999,999,999 people on the planet rather than consider that maybe the problem lies inward." retrieved via urbandictionary.com

The other idea of marrying for life, and that getting a divorce should count as a failed marriage is also another odd cultural thing. But another topic.

(October 29, 2017 at 6:21 pm)Chad32 Wrote: The other idea of marrying for life, and that getting a divorce should count as a failed marriage is also another odd cultural thing. But another topic.

How is life long monogamous marriage an odd cultural thing? There is such a thing as loving someone and actually wanting to be committed to them for life.