If you are enlightened, why are you trolling teh interwebs? Shouldn't you be out among your adoring flock? Also: "I am enlightened" said nobody, ever, and was right.

(November 4, 2017 at 11:02 pm)bennyboy Wrote: If you are enlightened, why are you trolling teh interwebs?  Shouldn't you be out among your adoring flock?  Also: "I am enlightened" said nobody, ever, and was right.

I'm enlightened, but no one can realize this truth.  I am trying to convince others, but it would be no different than trying to convince flat earth believers or believers in Thor.  It just doesn't seem to work.  Actually, it might come down to not really knowing which of our worldviews is true.  They would tell me that this is wrong, too, but even that may be undecided.

More of that familiar pitch. If no one else can realize The Truth™...honestly.....it's you, not them..bless your heart.

The only thing that all of your failures in life have in common, is yourself. Food for thought.

(November 4, 2017 at 11:07 pm)Khemikal Wrote: More of that familiar pitch.  If no one else can realize The Truth™...honestly.....it's you, not them..bless your heart.

The only thing that all of your failures in life have in common, is yourself.  Food for thought.

But what about what I said in regards to that food and reward study right here.  I don't know why you have dismissed it.  I talk about it in the last paragraph of this post:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-51313-p...pid1650873

I already commented. Are you actually reading peoples comments or just copy pasting them into your "book" to bloat the word count?

(November 4, 2017 at 11:11 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I already commented.  Are you actually reading peoples comments or just copy pasting them into your "book" to bloat the word count?

Then I don't understand why you have dismissed it.  You told me earlier that I can just look out in the world and that I would have all the evidence to support the idea that humanity had it right all along.  That was your basis for claiming that my worldview is false and yours is true.  If there can be evidence to support the views of humanity, then why can't there be evidence to support my view?  That's what I was doing here.

(November 4, 2017 at 11:14 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: Then I don't understand why you have dismissed it. 

Clearly, that's not exactly -my- problem...now is it?

Quote:You told me earlier that I can just look out in the world and that I would have all the evidence to support the idea that humanity had it right all along. 

Strange, I don't recall being present for that conversation.......

Quote:That was your basis for claiming that my worldview is false and yours is true. 

Was it?  

Quote:If there can be evidence to support the views of humanity, then why can't there be evidence to support my view?  That's what I was doing here.

You;re the one that wants to burn the ground with that nonsense.  I'm satisfied with the accessibility of knowledge.  You're not.  Either you have it right or no one can get it right.

(November 4, 2017 at 11:19 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(November 4, 2017 at 11:14 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: Then I don't understand why you have dismissed it. 

Clearly, that's not exactly -my- problem...now is it?

Quote:You told me earlier that I can just look out in the world and that I would have all the evidence to support the idea that humanity had it right all along. 

Strange, I don't recall being present for that conversation.......

Quote:That was your basis for claiming that my worldview is false and yours is true. 

Was it?  

Quote:If there can be evidence to support the views of humanity, then why can't there be evidence to support my view?  That's what I was doing here.

You;re the one that wants to burn the ground with that nonsense.  I'm satisfied with the accessibility of knowledge.  You're not.  Either you have it right or no one can get it right.

Your final sentence is what I was talking about.  These pieces of knowledge you are accessing are claims of evidence to support your worldview.  I have my own set of knowledge to support my view.  But, as I said earlier, it could really be the case that neither pieces of knowledge are any real evidence and that we just don't know who is right and who is wrong.  In that case, it really would all come down to that burned earth quote.

(November 4, 2017 at 11:21 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: Your final sentence is what I was talking about.  These pieces of knowledge you are accessing are claims of evidence to support your worldview.  I have my own set of knowledge to support my view. 

You have your own set of opinions and positions..but since they're exclusionary positions...it only takes a single dissenting example to make them false.  

Quote:But, as I said earlier, it could really be the case that neither pieces of knowledge are any real evidence and that we just don't know who is right and who is wrong.  In that case, it really would all come down to that burned earth quote.

You done pouring gasoline on the grass yet, or would you like some help?  You're wrong, it only takes one example to show that you're wrong.  That example exists.  You;re wrong even in the absence of that example because your worldview is internally inconsistent..it can't all be true even by reference to itself and what you insist to be true.  In fact, you couldn't be more wrong if you were trying to be wrong..which you obviously aren't.  I;d go so far as to characterize your "worldview" as even less than wrong.  It fails to rise to the level of credibly inaccurate.  It's just you rambling about shit and disagreeing with yourself.

Knowledge in each of these regards can be had and is possessed. It doesn't -have- to come down to a scorched earth, but you do not possess the ability to respond in any other way. You're frustrated.

Too bad.

(November 4, 2017 at 11:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(November 4, 2017 at 11:21 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: Your final sentence is what I was talking about.  These pieces of knowledge you are accessing are claims of evidence to support your worldview.  I have my own set of knowledge to support my view. 

You have your own set of opinions and positions..but since they're exclusionary positions...it only takes a single dissenting example to make them false.  

Quote:But, as I said earlier, it could really be the case that neither pieces of knowledge are any real evidence and that we just don't know who is right and who is wrong.  In that case, it really would all come down to that burned earth quote.

You done pouring gasoline on the grass yet, or would you like some help?  You're wrong, it only takes one example to show that you're wrong.  That example exists.  You;re wrong even in the absence of that example because your worldview is internally inconsistent..it can't all be true even by reference to itself and what you insist to be true.  In fact, you couldn't be more wrong if you were trying to be wrong..which you obviously aren't.  I;d go so far as to characterize your "worldview" as even less than wrong.  It fails to rise to the level of credibly inaccurate.  It's just you rambling about shit and disagreeing with yourself.

Knowledge in each of these regards can be had and is possessed.

Then I see no contradictions with my view.  I don't see how it is inconsistent then.  I just don't understand this because I really don't see it.  You are free to point out/recap those contradictions right here if you wish.