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Belief in magic
November 27, 2017 at 4:09 pm
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I never thought few years ago that there are billions of people who believe in magic, especially that said magic can magically "chew" your body for some time if your bad. Although, it's better than statistics about millions of people who went even farther and add to yearly count of murder and other crimes.
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RE: Belief in magic
November 27, 2017 at 10:50 pm
I always pick the Elementalist subclass. Because fire, ice and lightning is cool as fuck.
Especially fireballs
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RE: Belief in magic
November 28, 2017 at 12:17 am
I've loved magic all my life, but to say I believe in it would be a bit of a stretch.
What I really would like to do, though, is discover a scientific basis and methodology for it and make it real.
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RE: Belief in magic
November 28, 2017 at 12:36 am
(November 28, 2017 at 12:17 am)Astreja Wrote: I've loved magic all my life, but to say I believe in it would be a bit of a stretch.
What I really would like to do, though, is discover a scientific basis and methodology for it and make it real.
You mean like actually saw the woman in half?
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RE: Belief in magic
November 28, 2017 at 1:06 am
(November 27, 2017 at 10:50 pm)Hammy Wrote: I always pick the Elementalist subclass. Because fire, ice and lightning is cool as fuck.
Especially fireballs
I really liked the pen and paper RPG Mage: The Ascension. It had a few basic premises:
Magic was a literal reshaping of reality
Reality is, by and large, constructed through consensus (most people believe the earth is round, gravity is real, etc.)
If a Mage performs magic that violates that consensus - especially if it's performed in front of non-Awakened witnesses - it generates a Paradox
A Paradox is bad. Reality will attempt to self-correct, in a variety of ways, almost all of them bad for the Mage because they're the source of the Paradox
Since it was a White Wolf/World of Darkness game, it was a lot more collaborative than other games. No preset spells or abilities... you had to describe what you wanted to do. So, the in-game magic was only limited by your power levels, the Paradox mechanic, and your imagination. So, yeah, you could hurl fireballs at onlookers if you had the prerequisite power levels, but reality would snap back. Hard. But if you decided to target someone with a lightning bolt during a thunderstorm, there would be little to no Paradox to contend with.
The system, on the whole, made a lot of sense to me. It was also somewhat prescient. Some of the main bad guys were those that sought to shape the consensus of reality to their own nefarious ends. We're seeing that now in this 'fake news' era.
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RE: Belief in magic
November 28, 2017 at 1:34 am
(November 28, 2017 at 12:36 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: (November 28, 2017 at 12:17 am)Astreja Wrote: I've loved magic all my life, but to say I believe in it would be a bit of a stretch.
What I really would like to do, though, is discover a scientific basis and methodology for it and make it real.
You mean like actually saw the woman in half?
Hell, that's easy. Happens every year somewhere in the country.
The hard part is putting them back together. No one has managed that yet.
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RE: Belief in magic
November 28, 2017 at 1:44 am
(November 28, 2017 at 12:36 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: (November 28, 2017 at 12:17 am)Astreja Wrote: I've loved magic all my life, but to say I believe in it would be a bit of a stretch.
What I really would like to do, though, is discover a scientific basis and methodology for it and make it real.
You mean like actually saw the woman in half?
You need magic for that?
No, I'm thinking more in terms of D&D-type magic. Doesn't even have to be high-level spells, either; give me Magic Missile and half a dozen other 1st or 2nd level spells, and I'd be happy as a clam for years.
Only thing I've learned so far is that you can control effects by controlling causes. Figuring out how to control causes, 'tho, is going to take some more research.
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RE: Belief in magic
November 28, 2017 at 1:50 am
(November 28, 2017 at 1:44 am)Astreja Wrote: give me Magic Missile and half a dozen other 1st or 2nd level spells, and I'd be happy as a clam for years.
It seems that you specifically want Magic Missile in your repertoire. Has someone been bothering you lately?
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RE: Belief in magic
November 28, 2017 at 10:32 am
Yes magic is real, though you might know it by it's alternate name "theoretical physics"
Quote:To know yet to think that one does not know is best; Not to know yet to think that one knows will lead to difficulty.
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RE: Belief in magic
November 28, 2017 at 10:49 am
Of course magic is real. Well, real enough to make David Blaine rich.
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