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Micheal Flynn charged
December 1, 2017 at 4:06 pm
Quote:Michael Flynn was forced to resign in February, a month after he was questioned by the FBI for misleading the White House about meeting then Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak during the transition period before Mr Trump took office.
According to the charge sheet, Michael Flynn is accused of:
- falsely telling FBI agents that on or about 29 December 2016 he did not ask Mr Kislyak to "refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day"
- failing to recall that Mr Kislyak had later told him Russia was moderating its response to the sanctions as a result of his request
- falsely saying that on or about 22 December 2016 he did not ask Mr Kislyak to "delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution". Although there is no detail of the resolution in question, the discussion came a day before asserting that Israeli settlements on occupied Palestinian territory "had no legal validity".
Original BBC article here
So...is this just the beginning? Or is this going to be as bad as it gets? I've read more than one speculation that Kushner is going down soon, but that is just speculation.
None of us can tell the future of course, but I'm curious what predictions people have.
My one prediction is that there will be apologists in this thread, and they will use the same deflect/ignore tactic they've been using for months. Let's see if I'm right!
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RE: Micheal Flynn charged
December 1, 2017 at 4:08 pm
It seems to me that Flynn got a sweetheart deal from Mueller. He didn't get that because of his winning personality. He got it because he had the dirt on the people above him.
Now, you have to ask WHO was above him. Jared. Pence. And most of all, the WLB himself.
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RE: Micheal Flynn charged
December 1, 2017 at 4:10 pm
Not that it matters if he didn't get a deal. If he's guilty, and he just pleaded so...then the WLB obstructed justice. The case is procedural.
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RE: Micheal Flynn charged
December 1, 2017 at 9:05 pm
The news tonight said that Jared ordered one of the Dec contacts with the Russians on some Israel issue.
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RE: Micheal Flynn charged
December 1, 2017 at 9:34 pm
That little twerp never had an original idea in his life. Whatever he did someone told him to do.
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RE: Micheal Flynn charged
December 2, 2017 at 5:08 am
(December 1, 2017 at 4:06 pm)Aroura Wrote: Quote:Michael Flynn was forced to resign in February, a month after he was questioned by the FBI for misleading the White House about meeting then Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak during the transition period before Mr Trump took office.
According to the charge sheet, Michael Flynn is accused of:
- falsely telling FBI agents that on or about 29 December 2016 he did not ask Mr Kislyak to "refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day"
- failing to recall that Mr Kislyak had later told him Russia was moderating its response to the sanctions as a result of his request
- falsely saying that on or about 22 December 2016 he did not ask Mr Kislyak to "delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution". Although there is no detail of the resolution in question, the discussion came a day before asserting that Israeli settlements on occupied Palestinian territory "had no legal validity".
Original BBC article here
So...is this just the beginning? Or is this going to be as bad as it gets? I've read more than one speculation that Kushner is going down soon, but that is just speculation.
None of us can tell the future of course, but I'm curious what predictions people have.
My one prediction is that there will be apologists in this thread, and they will use the same deflect/ignore tactic they've been using for months. Let's see if I'm right!
Given what the two Flynns have dodged with Snrs plea, the evidence will have to be enough to hang Drumpfuck by the neck ujtil he is dead. Either that or stone him, Jerusalem style.
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RE: Micheal Flynn charged
December 2, 2017 at 9:41 am
Ding dong, the beeaaatch is dead, the orange beeeaatch, ding dong the orange beeaatech is dead.
Mueller's going to drop a house on someone soon.
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RE: Micheal Flynn charged
December 2, 2017 at 11:29 am
(December 1, 2017 at 4:06 pm)Aroura Wrote: Quote:Michael Flynn was forced to resign in February, a month after he was questioned by the FBI for misleading the White House about meeting then Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak during the transition period before Mr Trump took office.
According to the charge sheet, Michael Flynn is accused of:
- falsely telling FBI agents that on or about 29 December 2016 he did not ask Mr Kislyak to "refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day"
- failing to recall that Mr Kislyak had later told him Russia was moderating its response to the sanctions as a result of his request
- falsely saying that on or about 22 December 2016 he did not ask Mr Kislyak to "delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution". Although there is no detail of the resolution in question, the discussion came a day before asserting that Israeli settlements on occupied Palestinian territory "had no legal validity".
Original BBC article here
So...is this just the beginning? Or is this going to be as bad as it gets? I've read more than one speculation that Kushner is going down soon, but that is just speculation.
None of us can tell the future of course, but I'm curious what predictions people have.
My one prediction is that there will be apologists in this thread, and they will use the same deflect/ignore tactic they've been using for months. Let's see if I'm right!
Something I'm not clear on. If he had told the truth about these things, rather than lying to the FBI, what would he be charged with? If the only criminal act is perjury, there's no way for it to go up the chain outside of more perjury charges. Or is there some secondary treason type aspect that is also getting attached at a later date?
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RE: Micheal Flynn charged
December 2, 2017 at 11:35 am
Mueller had him on his interactions with Turkey over that cleric that Erdogan wants to murder. The fact that he only charged him with the lying to the FBI thing merely indicates how much of a sweetheart deal Flynn got. He must have given Mueller some great info on the handful of people who are further up the food chain.
And, should Flynn's commitment to the deal falter, Mueller can always trot out all those other crimes which are not covered by the agreement. Or, turn them over to state prosecutors where even the WLB can't issue a pardon.
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RE: Micheal Flynn charged
December 2, 2017 at 11:45 am
Copped a plea, yup. Though if there was collusion with the Russians on the election, he should burn for that, IMO.
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