(December 16, 2017 at 11:07 pm)Succubus Wrote:

(December 16, 2017 at 9:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Just curious: is that because you think everything associated with the big bang is everything there is (and if so, why) - or - for some other reason?

Some other reason? What other possible reason? At the risk of repeating myself, I can only repeat myself. You are splitting Planck lengths with this distinction between cosmos and universe, that's the stuff of philosophy not science. Why introduce a confounding factor?
How many theoretical physicists can dance on the lens of a telescope?

The Large Hadron Collider and other wigetry takes us back to 10-43 seconds after the universe began to inflate. We have no knowledge of the universe @ T=0

All else is chalk marks on a blackboard.

So it's your hunch then.  Got it.  Me too.

Wow! Thanks for this! I have always thought that a multiverse makes most sense and have been waiting for some sort of empirical evidence to support it. Exciting times. Now to rewatch those Rick & Morty shows.

(December 16, 2017 at 1:52 pm)Succubus Wrote: If I were asked for my definition of the universe I would use this one.
"Everything that exists anywhere".

Now if you have an alternate description it had better be:

1) As pithy as the above.
2) Be very brief.
5) Make sense.
3) Not involve hideously complex mathematics.
4) Or, be highly entertaining, as in some new age woo interpretations.

Regarding no 3. Yes I do understand the various multiverse theories are at base, mathematical constructs.
But fuck off anyway!

A universe containing the multiverse doesnt sound right.

OK, let me settle the semantics once and for all...

Universe: Our perceived universe (as far as the eye can see!)
Multiverse: A theoretical universe which encompasses many (infinite) independent universes
Godfather Universe: The all encompassing vessel which contains all possible multiverses > universes.
Great Grandfather Universe: The Head Turtle

(December 16, 2017 at 11:08 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Can some one give me short answer if you understand multiverse theory. How something as crazy as multiverse exist? It's sounds supernatural.

The gist seems to be that truly random events occurring in our universe is even crazier than the idea of a multiverse. 

Randomness is also considered 'supernatural', it's just less flashy.

(December 18, 2017 at 11:31 pm)SupernaturalProof Wrote:  Good thread, and I agree that scientists are finally confirming that our Universe is not the only place,,, God revealed to us that there is also a place called Heaven , Purgatory and a Hell.,...  call 1-800-275-1126 to learn why atheism is foolish

Blah, blah, blah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Holy_..._Monastery

^^^^^

So the universe is not the only place?

So God and his talking animals live outside/beyond of our natural physical universe.
No probs ...but you can never know that, right theists...
It's just a claim completely without evidence.

Right?


CL?


check 1,2.... Is this mike on?

Guys, I really enjoyed this ...





I'd love humanity to solve this... It will be a game changer ... Where's Zefram Cochrane? Shit, we gotta wait till 2063... oh well.

(December 16, 2017 at 12:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: There's a (probably apocryphal) story of an elderly Michael Faraday demonstrating his theories and electrical experiments to a relatively young Queen Victoria. HRH listened politely and then asked, 'It's all very interesting, but of what practical use is it?'

Nonplussed for a moment, the eminent scientist replied, 'Madam, of what practical use is a new-born baby?'

Boru

My version of the story says the eminent scientist was much more cunning. He replies “one day your highness may tax it.”

(December 18, 2017 at 5:43 am)Grandizer Wrote:

(December 16, 2017 at 1:52 pm)Succubus Wrote: If I were asked for my definition of the universe I would use this one.
"Everything that exists anywhere".

Now if you have an alternate description it had better be:

1) As pithy as the above.
2) Be very brief.
5) Make sense.
3) Not involve hideously complex mathematics.
4) Or, be highly entertaining, as in some new age woo interpretations.

Regarding no 3. Yes I do understand the various multiverse theories are at base, mathematical constructs.
But fuck off anyway!

A universe containing the multiverse doesnt sound right.

I'm gonna guess there are  more than one of those containers, amirite?