Did I stutter? You....can't....fence......stolen....property. Do you disagree? Does "god" disagree?

(March 1, 2018 at 2:16 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Did I stutter?  You....can't....fence......stolen....property.  Do you disagree?  Does "god" disagree?

What you're being is vague, are you suggesting that scripture really means one can't sell stolen slaves?

Huggy, Huggy, Huggy, your fucking scriptures can be used to justify any crime.

(March 1, 2018 at 2:32 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 2:16 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Did I stutter?  You....can't....fence......stolen....property.  Do you disagree?  Does "god" disagree?

What you're being is vague, are you suggesting that scripture really means one can't sell stolen slaves?

That's what it says, isn't it?  That a person caught selling a stolen man is subject to punishment. Biblically, slavery is a-ok....stealing slaves, otoh, is not. That's pedestrian as all get out. Slave owners have always thought poorly of other slave owners who steal their human property.

How are you supposed to get the ditches dug if some asshole keeps taking your equipment?

If magic book wanted to tell us that slavery itself was verboten...presumably, it would have done so. It did and does not. It regulates and normalizes it, instead. Now...you can carry water for biblical slavery all you like, but I actually do own a few bibles..and what you can't do, is pretend that it's not in there. Not with me, at least, because I'm not a fuckin idiot compelled to memory hole every shitty thing about other people religions. I don;t have any patience for that nonsense. You, otoh, are a fucking slavery apologist. You'd love to insist that biblical slavery isn't the bad kind of slavery, as though there were some alternative good (or at least neutral) kind of slavery.

I hope that makes your folks real, real proud. There's nothing vague in what I said, it's just uncomfortable for you.

Well, tough shit, it's your stupid religion. Deal with it.

(March 1, 2018 at 12:38 pm)stretch3172 Wrote: Your argument is invalid. If you and I both witnessed the same event such as a parade or concert and wrote about it, our accounts would differ quite a bit in terms of the details we include (or omit). Still, both accounts could be faithful, accurate renderings of the same event from different perspectives, and both could contain valuable information to a curious reader. The only difference is that God influenced and directed this process.

No. Mark saw a short clip of Pink Floyd's Division Bell concert on MTV through a television shop window. Matthew watched the whole thing on VHS tape. Luke saw them live at Earls Court and John was on stage playing lead guitar.

(March 1, 2018 at 2:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 2:32 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: What you're being is vague, are you suggesting that scripture really means one can't sell stolen slaves?

That's what it says, isn't it?  That a person caught selling a stolen man is subject to punishment.  Biblically, slavery is a-ok....stealing slaves, otoh, is not.  That's pedestrian as all get out.  Slave owners have always thought poorly of other slave owners who steal their human property.

Are you stupid?

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL is one of the 10 commandments, so if the man is someones property as you say, then that already covered under the 10 commandments.

However "he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." is referring to kidnapping and selling someone into servitude or forcing them into servitude.

(March 1, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Antares Wrote: You’re the one that embraces a religion that advocates slavery. Who’s been had?

Bu but SLAVERY!..

Was there indentured servitude? yes, it was purely voluntary, you were not allowed to force someone in to servitude / slavery.

And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death. - Exodus 21:16

once again

Read Isaiah 14:1-2 (CEB) = "The Lord will have compassion on Jacob, will again choose Israel, and will give them rest in their own land. Immigrants will join them, and attach themselves to the house of Jacob. 2 The peoples will take them and will bring them to their own place. The house of Israel will possess them as male and female slaves in the Lord’s land, making captives of their captors and ruling their oppressors."

Why do you want to be a Jew's slave?

(March 1, 2018 at 3:23 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Bu but SLAVERY!..

Was there indentured servitude? yes, it was purely voluntary, you were not allowed to force someone in to servitude / slavery.

And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death. - Exodus 21:16

once again

Read Isaiah 14:1-2 (CEB) = "The Lord will have compassion on Jacob, will again choose Israel, and will give them rest in their own land. Immigrants will join them, and attach themselves to the house of Jacob. 2 The peoples will take them and will bring them to their own place. The house of Israel will possess them as male and female slaves in the Lord’s land, making captives of their captors and ruling their oppressors."

Why do you want to be a Jew's slave?

Someone didn't get the memo that Isaiah is a book of prophecy.

Besides what did I tell you guys about using translations other than KJV?

(March 1, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 2:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That's what it says, isn't it?  That a person caught selling a stolen man is subject to punishment.  Biblically, slavery is a-ok....stealing slaves, otoh, is not.  That's pedestrian as all get out.  Slave owners have always thought poorly of other slave owners who steal their human property.

Are you stupid?

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL is one of the 10 commandments, so if the man is someones property as you say, then that already covered under the 10 commandments.

However "he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." is referring to kidnapping and selling someone into servitude or forcing them into servitude.

You can only "steal" something that's someone else's property.  If human beings can be someone else's property............and magic book says they can be..............then ofc you can't steal them.

Problem?

(March 1, 2018 at 3:58 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(March 1, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Are you stupid?

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL is one of the 10 commandments, so if the man is someones property as you say, then that already covered under the 10 commandments.

However "he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." is referring to kidnapping and selling someone into servitude or forcing them into servitude.

You can only "steal" something that's someone else's property.  If human beings can be someone else's property............and magic book says they can be..............then ofc you can't steal them.

Problem?

*emphasis mine*
In case you didn't understand, I'm agreeing with your for the sake of argument.

The 10 commandments clearly state "thou shalt not steal". 

You admit that "You can only steal something that's someone else's property". 

There is no need to make another rule that is already addressed in the 10 commandments unless the other rule is not referencing property correct?