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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 17, 2018 at 11:23 pm
(March 17, 2018 at 11:08 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: (March 17, 2018 at 10:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Wasn't the OP talking about how a type salamander could produce a new species every few months?
So answer question, how long does it take for an animal to produce a new breed?
Deflection noted.
You really think there's a single answer to that for all animals?!? You've already been worked on speciation once. You really want to go there again? So now he's trying to hijack another scientific concept to push his idea of kinds . Just wow
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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 12:23 am
(March 17, 2018 at 11:08 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: (March 17, 2018 at 10:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Wasn't the OP talking about how a type salamander could produce a new species every few months?
So answer question, how long does it take for an animal to produce a new breed?
Deflection noted.
You really think there's a single answer to that for all animals?!? You've already been worked on speciation once. You really want to go there again?
So since you refuse to answer the question, we'll just say you have no clue how long it takes for an animal to produce a new breed, and therefore have no basis to suggest it must take a really really long time... 
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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 1:30 am
(March 17, 2018 at 9:09 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 17, 2018 at 8:54 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: "Scientists have recently estimated that there are approximately 8.7 million species on Earth. They believe that 1-2 million of those species are animals."
That was one hellishly cramped ark if kind is equal to species. That's equal to 3 animals per cubic foot, at minimum. I take it you don't believe in evolution? Animal life didn't start out with 2 million species...
So you believe in evolution then, that one "kind" can evolve into a different kind, such that homo sapiens sapiens, Adam and Eve, are evolved from some other kind?
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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 1:37 am
(March 18, 2018 at 1:30 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (March 17, 2018 at 9:09 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I take it you don't believe in evolution? Animal life didn't start out with 2 million species...
So you believe in evolution then, that one "kind" can evolve into a different kind, such that homo sapiens sapiens, Adam and Eve, are evolved from some other kind?
No, I believe everything evolves after it's own kind.
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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 1:55 am
(March 18, 2018 at 1:37 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 18, 2018 at 1:30 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: So you believe in evolution then, that one "kind" can evolve into a different kind, such that homo sapiens sapiens, Adam and Eve, are evolved from some other kind?
No, I believe everything evolves after it's own kind.
You're equivocating. The theory of biological evolution is the theory that one kind, aka species, can evolve into a different kind/species. Do you believe in evolution thus defined?
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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 3:37 am
That's absolute derp . There are no kinds . And life does not evolve within them.
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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 7:46 am
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Should've just taken the kinds survey, Hugs. In any case, if you posit that things evolve "after their own kind" then kind is not synonymous with species after all. For example, earlier, you mentioned cats. Let;s call that "cat-kind". All cats evolved after their own "cat-kind".
Well, you're talking felidae,..then. "Cat-kind" is a family, not a species. Now, I bet we'd have seen that, simply, when you answered "cat-kind" to tigers and housecats..right? Or "dog kind" to wolves and beagles. Or "ape-kind" to man and orangutans.
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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 4:42 pm
(March 18, 2018 at 1:55 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (March 18, 2018 at 1:37 am)Huggy74 Wrote: No, I believe everything evolves after it's own kind.
You're equivocating. The theory of biological evolution is the theory that one kind, aka species, can evolve into a different kind/species. Do you believe in evolution thus defined?
No, I've made it clear that I don't believe we've evolved from some primordial soup.
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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 4:44 pm
Nor do I Huggy.
That's for simpletons trying to understand the actual science.
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RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 5:01 pm
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Yup like Huggy on pretty much any subject
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I wonder if he will quote that in the hall of shame . And make huge deal out of it for cheap gotcha points. Only to then have pointed out that he's wrong . And embarrass himself while trying to embarrass you . Because he's so desperate to win any kind of victory .
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