(April 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm)Sterben Wrote:

(April 11, 2018 at 6:55 am)Hammy Wrote: Don't be ridiculous.

Surely fired into the sun is a better option.

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...yeah for about 5 minutes until he starts touching up the staff.

       He would use his discount card for 10% off pussy, then ask for a refund.

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(April 11, 2018 at 8:01 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What did the sun ever do to you?

Boru

      We could always send him to your house to be your new obnoxious roommate.

I think you're getting the two different Brians mixed up lol.

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(April 11, 2018 at 11:20 pm)henryp Wrote:

(April 11, 2018 at 6:41 pm)Fireball Wrote: We think much the same on this issue.

Does it ever give you pause that with all these events with an immense amount of variables you can't possibly know, you always confidently conclude the truth is a fairly extreme scenario that happens to line up with your political ideology?  

And you're a Trumptard. Have you ever considered the fact that your Trumptardiness happens to line up perfectly with your own lack of intelligence?

(April 12, 2018 at 10:27 am)henryp Wrote:

(April 12, 2018 at 9:53 am)Fireball Wrote: you are so wise

CNN for the last 18 months or so seems like at least once a week been posting in big red text on the homepage how some event is going to be the end of the Trump presidency.  And every time that happens, someone posts in politics about the newest headline, with "Get ready for Jail Donny!"  But then a few days pass, and it's over.  And at no point during this 18 months has anyone taken a step back and said "Hmm, I think CNN may be sensationalizing these headlines a bit."  

Do you recognize the disconnect in what you guys thought was going to happen, and what actually happened with all of these incidents?  And that it keeps happening over and over and over. 

Remember Donald hasn't paid taxes since whenever.  And then they leaked his tax return to Maddow, and Rachel was like "Yup, he paid some taxes" as her big reveal?  And then that story about him never paying taxes disappeared forever and was never mentioned again?  The fact media was strongly implying something that was false never really got addressed.  Just onto the next thing.

Just blink twice if you recognize on some level that you're being manipulated into some probably unjustified opinions.

You realize that it is actually possible to assimilate new information as it comes out, while at the same time recognizing the media’s sensationalizing of that information, yes?  Understanding how the media works doesn’t make Trump any less of an objective douche, and a probable criminal.

LFC is right.

Another thing... the most objective and correct answer is not necessarily dead in the middle. Henryp douchenozzle, formerly wallym douchenozzle, needs to learn what actual balance and reasonableness is all about.

(April 12, 2018 at 11:30 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(April 12, 2018 at 11:06 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Ah, yes.  The trump whore doubling down in the manner of the loofa faced shit gibbon.

You're not really addressing his point. Calling him a Trump whore isn't defending your position.

He has a point?

(April 15, 2018 at 7:30 am)Hammy Wrote:

(April 11, 2018 at 11:20 pm)henryp Wrote: Does it ever give you pause that with all these events with an immense amount of variables you can't possibly know, you always confidently conclude the truth is a fairly extreme scenario that happens to line up with your political ideology?  

And you're a Trumptard. Have you ever considered the fact that your Trumptardiness happens to line up perfectly with your own lack of intelligence?

I get your situation.  You've got a house of cards you're trying to maintain based on a mildly hilarious combination of self-delusion and the idea that you're some sort of truth teller.  And that's understandable.  We all got to do what we got to do to get by, so you get a pass.  

But I don't get why more generic people do it.  It isn't an idea new to the forum.  Why religious people believe stupid religious stuff is a pretty constant topic.  They have the luxury of apologetics at least.  Unknowns, God's will, and all sorts of workarounds.  But with politics, it often ends up being undeniably correct/incorrect.  Someone implies something like Obama is a muslim, or Hillary runs a sexy pizza shop, or Trump paid no taxes.  And people believe it 100%.  Then it's shown to be false, yet they jump into the next thing with the same confidence as the last.  

What is it that keeps people from hesitating?  Why is there no pattern recognition?

When Trump launches Holy Crusade, then I will gladly support him.

(April 15, 2018 at 8:01 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(April 12, 2018 at 10:27 am)henryp Wrote: CNN for the last 18 months or so seems like at least once a week been posting in big red text on the homepage how some event is going to be the end of the Trump presidency.  And every time that happens, someone posts in politics about the newest headline, with "Get ready for Jail Donny!"  But then a few days pass, and it's over.  And at no point during this 18 months has anyone taken a step back and said "Hmm, I think CNN may be sensationalizing these headlines a bit."  

Do you recognize the disconnect in what you guys thought was going to happen, and what actually happened with all of these incidents?  And that it keeps happening over and over and over. 

Remember Donald hasn't paid taxes since whenever.  And then they leaked his tax return to Maddow, and Rachel was like "Yup, he paid some taxes" as her big reveal?  And then that story about him never paying taxes disappeared forever and was never mentioned again?  The fact media was strongly implying something that was false never really got addressed.  Just onto the next thing.

Just blink twice if you recognize on some level that you're being manipulated into some probably unjustified opinions.

You realize that it is actually possible to assimilate new information as it comes out, while at the same time recognizing the media’s sensationalizing of that information, yes?  Understanding how the media works doesn’t make Trump any less of an objective douche, and a probable criminal.

If people recognized the media's sensationalizing, I don't think they'd buy in like they do.  And really, it may not be the media that's the root of the problem.  The media just helps some people get to where they want to go?  Because the goal for a lot of people seems to be "Imagine the reality that is the worst regarding the opposition, and assume that's true."  I think the media in a lot of cases is just helping people think up a worst possible reality.

Hillary and pizzagate is a great example.  Hillary is a lousy person, and probably a criminal as well.  But that in no way justifies thinking she ran a child sex ring or whatever that story was out of some pizza place.  If this were a conservative forum, I'd ask the same question of right wing folks.  

What do you think keeps people from noticing they've been wrong/misled over and over without adjusting how they come to their next opinion?

(April 15, 2018 at 10:17 am)henryp Wrote:

(April 15, 2018 at 8:01 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: You realize that it is actually possible to assimilate new information as it comes out, while at the same time recognizing the media’s sensationalizing of that information, yes?  Understanding how the media works doesn’t make Trump any less of an objective douche, and a probable criminal.

If people recognized the media's sensationalizing, I don't think they'd buy in like they do.  And really, it may not be the media that's the root of the problem.  The media just helps some people get to where they want to go?  Because the goal for a lot of people seems to be "Imagine the reality that is the worst regarding the opposition, and assume that's true."  I think the media in a lot of cases is just helping people think up a worst possible reality.

Hillary and pizzagate is a great example.  Hillary is a lousy person, and probably a criminal as well.  But that in no way justifies thinking she ran a child sex ring or whatever that story was out of some pizza place.  If this were a conservative forum, I'd ask the same question of right wing folks.  

What do you think keeps people from noticing they've been wrong/misled over and over without adjusting how they come to their next opinion?

Those people still think they’re right about those things, lol.  Why would they think they need to adjust their methods?

(April 15, 2018 at 10:03 am)henryp Wrote:

(April 15, 2018 at 7:30 am)Hammy Wrote: And you're a Trumptard. Have you ever considered the fact that your Trumptardiness happens to line up perfectly with your own lack of intelligence?

I get your situation.  You've got a house of cards you're trying to maintain based on a mildly hilarious combination of self-delusion and the idea that you're some sort of truth teller.  And that's understandable.  We all got to do what we got to do to get by, so you get a pass.  

Hey moron, it's not possible to be deluded about what you honestly believe. You're confusing illusion with delusion. Even if I'm self-deluded I'm still honestly self-deluded.

As it happens, I'm not self deluded, but you are a trump-loving moron that lacks intelligence.

So far we have 4 self-identified idiots who fell for the WLB's line of shit.